NC State (19-11, 8-7)
	vs
	Virginia Tech (15-15, 4-11)
	Sunday, March 4th, 6:00pm TV: ESPNU Not available on ESPN3 Announcers: Justin Kutcher and Hubert Davis

Virginia Tech season statistics (NCAA rank):
Points per game: 65.5 (231st)
Rebounds per game: 33.9 (208th)
Assists per game: 11.9 (256th)
FG%: .426 (222nd)
RPI: 103rd (State: 72nd)

Virginia Tech schedule to date:
East Tennessee State W 64-53
Monmouth W 91-46
Florida International W 78-63
vs #5 Syracuse L 69-58
vs Oklahoma State W 59-57
St. Bonaventure W 73-64
@ Minnesota L 58-55
Kansas State L 69-61
@ Rhode Island W 78-67
Norfolk State W 73-60
Campbell W 85-60
North Florida W 84-55
Eastern Michigan W 71-50
@ Oklahoma State W 67-61
@ Wake Forest L 58-55
Florida State L 63-59
@ Boston College L 61-59
#8 North Carolina L 82-68
@ #17 Virginia W 47-45
Brigham Young L 70-68
@ Maryland L 73-69
#5 Duke L 75-60
Clemson W 67-65
@ Miami (FL) L 65-49
Boston College W 66-65
@ #21 Florida State L 48-47
Georgia Tech W 74-73 OT
Virginia L 61-59
@ #4 Duke L 70-65 OT
@ Clemson L 58-56



ACC Tournament Seeding Scenarios:

• The Wolfpack will be the No. 4 seed with a win AND a Virginia loss AND a Clemson loss


• The Wolfpack will be the No. 4 seed with a win AND a Virginia loss AND a Clemson win AND a Miami win


• The Wolfpack will be the No. 5 seed with a Virginia win AND a Clemson loss AND a Miami loss


• The Wolfpack will be the No. 5 seed with a win AND a Virginia win AND a Clemson loss AND a Miami win


• The Wolfpack will be the No. 5 seed with a win AND a Virginia loss AND a Clemson win AND a Miami loss


• The Wolfpack will be the No. 6 seed with a win AND a Virginia win AND a Clemson win


• The Wolfpack will be the No. 6 seed with a loss AND a Virginia win AND a Clemson win AND a Miami loss


• The Wolfpack will be the No. 6 seed with a loss AND a Virginia loss AND a Miami loss


• The Wolfpack will be the No. 7 seed with a loss AND a Miami win

3/2/2012 12:56:47 PM

first

iop1

plz2win

plz2finish4th

we start jumping and then along with it go "ooooooooooooo" and get louder like "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH" and then switch to "PACK! PACK! PACK! PACK! OOOOOO PACK! PACK! PACK! PACK! OOOOOOOOOOOO! POWER PACK! POWER PACK! BACK THE PACK!" and then play a loud rockin rap song or somethin. i think it would get things crazy.

even tho it's an away game

[Edited on March 2, 2012 at 1:13 PM. Reason : s]

3/2/2012 12:58:26 PM

this game comes down to whether or not the Hokies have large talons

3/2/2012 1:28:52 PM

wow, didn't realize we could easily be a 7 seed. wow!

3/2/2012 1:33:49 PM

this game will determine which team is slightly less bad at choking

3/2/2012 1:39:10 PM

might end up being better to win but get the 5 seed

[Edited on March 2, 2012 at 1:39 PM. Reason : .]

3/2/2012 1:39:26 PM

^^^ and Miami is gonna take care of BC at home

raises the stakes on our game

3/2/2012 1:42:11 PM

plz 2 win

3/2/2012 1:47:18 PM

iop1 plz2win

Hubert Davis can die in a fire

3/2/2012 1:51:53 PM

The only road upset we've pulled off all year is the Miami game, we are due for one.

I guess theres a slight chance we could be favored in this one though since vt record is so deceivingly bad.

Prob go off as 2 point underdogs though

3/2/2012 1:59:15 PM

Quote :

"this game comes down to whether or not the Hokies have large talons"

3/2/2012 2:01:11 PM

Please Victor.

3/2/2012 2:01:58 PM

need a win

3/2/2012 2:24:01 PM

Just saw the UVA is at 2 Sunday with our game at 6. damn i hope they lose and the boys storm the court with some fire.

but i can see UVA winning and State with a slow start, like FSU.

Also no Malcolm Delaney equals W

[Edited on March 2, 2012 at 2:48 PM. Reason : double u]

3/2/2012 2:44:14 PM

ibtw

3/2/2012 2:46:27 PM

iop1

plz2win

GO PACK!

3/2/2012 2:51:51 PM

Quote :

"Just saw the UVA is at 2 Sunday with our game at 6. damn i hope they lose and the boys storm the court with some fire. but i can see UVA winning and State with a slow start, like FSU. Also no Malcolm Delaney equals W"

yeah, we will know where in the acc we will stand, but it means jack shit if we want to make the ncaat.

3/2/2012 2:52:03 PM

please fucking win

3/2/2012 2:52:15 PM

Did Malcolm Delaney pull his hammy?

3/2/2012 3:04:09 PM

DONT FUCK IT UP, PACK

3/2/2012 3:25:51 PM

^This. Please win.

3/2/2012 3:28:39 PM

we need NC State, Miami and Maryland to win.

GO PACK

3/2/2012 3:31:08 PM

^^^^ Do not start that lame ass shit again.

VT is a much better team than their record indicates. It is amazing how many close games they've lost. Hopefully they mail it in on this one, but since it is senior night, I am sure they'll have motivation.

State = 70
VT = 68



[Edited on March 2, 2012 at 3:34 PM. Reason : df]

3/2/2012 3:34:38 PM

Quote :

"yeah, we will know where in the acc we will stand, but it means jack shit if we want to make the ncaat. "

True. I was hoping that UVA would lose, allowing us to grab a 4 seed if a couple of other things break our way. However, perversely, it would probably be better for our NCAAT resume if UVA wins. If they end up 4 and we end up 5, we'd end up playing them next Friday anyway, assuming we beat whichever team ends up #12. It we win, it would be a better win for us if they have beaten UMD on the way there.

Of course, you could also say that having to play that extra game would take more a toll from fatigue on a team as shallow as we are.

3/2/2012 3:35:38 PM

I have a feeling that we are in for a bad loss. sorry guys but GO PACK

3/2/2012 3:41:02 PM

I'm about to crank up the Sunshine Sidney Squad Glorified Gottfried Gang here with some motherfucking optimism blowing out your asshole.

Some people say they only want to face a team when its at their best. They don't want to face a team who is crippled by injuries or NCAA ineligibilites. We're not playing at a high enough level to afford that luxury, so I hope Reggie Johnson remains ineligible until Thursday. He is fun to watch, but we need any advantage we can get. We all know what happened in the 2-episode series finale of Blue Mountain State.

So let's say Gottfried tells the team the Gauntlet is over, that the Clemson loss was just jetlag from the USAir Rape Gauntlet turbulence, and convinces them to just go have some fun and play basketball. Wood gets a little confidence and knocks down a couple jumpers early. AJ remembers why he transferred to State instead of getting a part-time job while he finished grad school and continues to knock down some shots. CJ Williams realizes that his collegiate career could be ending soon and goes back to his level of play a month ago. Let's say we win and go to 8-7, controlling our own destiny against a now 8-7 Miami team over whom we hold the tiebreaker.

Fast forward to Thursday night. FSU at Virginia. FSU is on the road and UNC has probably beaten Maryland and Duke has most likely beaten Wake, even though they throttled BC on Saturday. FSU is mathematically eliminated from a top-2 seed in the ACC tournament, but they still want to get the best possible NCAA tournament seeding. In a battle of great defense and inconsistent offense versus an intentionally half-court paced team who would rather get back on defense than even try for an offensive rebound, FSU wins the game. Even if its as ugly as their two games this season against the Cavaliers' in-state rival Hokies, FSU has their eye on March.

We are 8-7 with 3rd place impossible to attain, but in a 3-way tie for 4th place and a 1st round bye. If we beat Virginia Tech, we finish ahead of Miami regardless of what they do. We don't control our own fate completely though, as Virginia could beat Maryland and would hold the tiebreaker over the Wolfpack with identical 9-7 conference records. But we all know how well Maryland does to crush the post-season dreams of ACC foes. That alone could give our team the motivation for a late-NFL-playoff push style effort where you can only win your own game but you can hope for a little help, and a little help is just one game.

We get that help, we don't play until Friday. We don't get that help, we play Wake, BC, or GT, who we are a combined 5-1 against this season, on Thursday. It might be a longshot, but so was a Brooklyn kid coaching against a couple of the NBA's 50 All Time Greatest players and winning. We beat Michael Jordan and Ralph Sampson. We beat Clyde Drexler and Akeem Olajuwon. Why can't we beat Austin Rivers and John Henson?

3/2/2012 3:42:24 PM

you taking credit for that?

3/2/2012 3:43:54 PM

anybody with common sense knows I didnt write that

3/2/2012 3:44:51 PM

i think you just excluded over half the posters.

3/2/2012 3:46:52 PM

I'm just glad there is still something interesting about nc state basketball right now. Besides, haven't we locked up a top 4 seed in the NIT by now?

3/2/2012 3:49:15 PM

we've got to f-ing win this game

no question about it.

and then go on to the acc finals and lose to unc in the usual fashion.

3/2/2012 3:53:43 PM

how can i watch this?

3/2/2012 3:57:46 PM

I'm going to be so pissed if everything lines up perfectly and we get the 4 seed but UNC beats duke

3/2/2012 3:58:31 PM

^^^but this time doing that would most likely gain us an NCAAT bid. Assuming that doing so meant we would have beaten a good team like FSU or UVA to get there (for once).

[Edited on March 2, 2012 at 3:59 PM. Reason : hats]

3/2/2012 3:59:21 PM

^^ Well all we can do is sit back and hope that Duke is hitting threes tomorrow night

3/2/2012 4:14:08 PM

I'll preface this by saying I haven't watched a single VT game this year, but they don't really seem scary at all to me. Their statistics are below average in basically every category. They've had a few close losses, but also close wins against bad teams and blowout losses to good teams. Pretty reminiscent of a Sidney Lowe team that shows flashes of potential but is mostly crap. We'd have to play worse than we did during the 4 game losing streak to drop this one, and I don't see that happening if Wood is out of his slump.

3/2/2012 4:17:49 PM

Virginia Tech lives off points inside the arc. I doubt they get those against us.

They don't shoot threes at all. That's our main weakness defensively.

Defensively they are horrid.

They are hopelessly short and have zero depth.

I like NC State vs the spread. This has all the makings of a 30+ point game that might only be a 15 point spread.

3/2/2012 4:24:59 PM

3/2/2012 5:15:07 PM

iop1. I'm here for the letdown

3/2/2012 5:21:46 PM

Quote :

"They've had a few close losses, but also close wins against bad teams and blowout losses to good teams. "

Might as well be talking about us with this statement.

3/2/2012 5:30:01 PM

A lot of classic "I'll be watching but not getting my hopes up so I can be pleasantly surprised when we win" going on up in here. Contain Green and we should be ok, they don't have much going on the inside.

3/2/2012 5:35:34 PM

VT isn't big inside but their guards are big to help make up for it. They shoot the 3 well and from a bunch of different guys... they defend the 3 very well. Our big advantage in this game is on the glass where they tend to struggle (especially defensively).

So it could be a big game for Leslie and Howell if they can hit the glass. We need Lorenzo to build off of his last game. He has to play to his ability to guide us through the postseason. If he plays like he did against Miami we could easily find ourselves in the ACC Finals assuming we go through UVA (banged up) and Duke (they're scared of us)

3/2/2012 5:42:10 PM

iop1?

goddamnit this game not on espn3. FML

3/2/2012 6:38:15 PM

i have not watched a single VT game this season, but i fully expect us to win this game b/c i have zero respect for seth greenberg or their arena or their civil/environmental department, if i'm being honest.

3/2/2012 6:42:02 PM

VT is ridiculously streaky. When they're on, Green and Hudson are as good of offensive players as there are in the conference. When they aren't, tech is really, really bad.

They make really dumb decisions at critical points in the game and greenberg buries his face in his hands a lot.

3/2/2012 6:44:25 PM

3/2/2012 6:49:27 PM

3/2/2012 6:52:54 PM

^^I did finally figure out what she's saying. "I'm Olivia Wilde, and welcome to the GQ Comedy Issue."

Although apparently I could have just checked the other thread, instead of wasting my own time!

[Edited on March 2, 2012 at 6:54 PM. Reason : ]

3/2/2012 6:53:14 PM

^See, she is NOT very attractive IRL, but only looks good with less close on and some hollywood.

3/2/2012 7:14:11 PM

Insert pointy elbows meme and...

Quote :

"LESS CLOSE ON"

[Edited on March 2, 2012 at 7:29 PM. Reason : F]

3/2/2012 7:29:25 PM