I was just being an asshole, sorry!

9/19/2026 8:44:46 PM

Man I'm maybe more mixed on DD than others but he's such a little baby after a close win that should've been easier. "by the way we won that football game" shut the fuck up man, you know exactly what the deal is.

9/27/2026 6:06:23 AM

He's going to TILTED when/if the team loses a few on the road in the presser.

9/27/2026 8:42:02 AM

^^ yeah the “hey by the way we won” stuff is fine when you’re nitpicking a win over a p4 team or if we had just improved to 3-1. But when you’re 2-2 with wins only over Richmond and App, it’s a bit hollow and lame

9/27/2026 10:35:50 AM

Technically we are 4-0

9/27/2026 10:45:33 AM

That’s true

9/27/2026 1:21:42 PM

Paging APCrook.

10/10/2026 3:50:04 PM

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"@aleclower The Pitt loss last year was the day for me. It was clear at that point that State's competitiveness in the league had comr down a level, largely as a product of the paradigm shift in the sport. Nothing about this opinion has changed since then."

This kinda sums it up for me. I know people will say they’ve known for 13 years that Doeren sucked. But I think it’s clear that he was able to compete near the top of the conference for a period of time. Some 6-2 ACC seasons proves that. Always a step behind Clemson or FSU or whoever was competing at national title levels, but otherwise definitely and firmly in the second tier for a good stretch of time. Thats no longer the case. A combination of a lot of things…lack of talent across the board is part of it. But also lack of maximizing the talent we did have. We had Smothers (Texas), Rogers (Bama), Anderson (Southern Cal) on the offense last year and we didn’t do a lot to heavily feature those guys. We had studs (or at least guys that elite programs viewed as potential studs) on our team and the offense didn’t look drastically better than it does when we’re passing to Preston Douglas and Ashton Locklear.

It was clear Smothers was really good last year. But Rogers never really was peppered with targets and heavily featured in the offense. That feels like a mistake. Anderson was good, but same thing…he’d disappear for a game then have a big game. Feels like a failure of coaching to not force feed those guys.

10/10/2026 4:47:02 PM

Quote :

"NC State head coach Dave Doeren postgame on how well Jake Dickert's done at WF given the lack of resources they have: "It's hard for me to say that they [Wake Forest] don't have a ton of resources because I don't get to look at their budget. It's not a fair question.""

Ok, dave

10/10/2026 6:25:48 PM

The only reason to keep watching is to see what new lows Dave can reach and still keep his job week to week and debate whether, for example, 31 unanswered points is a bigger disaster than fumbling the game away in your own end zone on the last play. The guy is a parody of himself at this point.

Bye week coming up. Can Boo find his balls? Maybe Dave takes him out, too.

10/10/2026 6:57:22 PM

I don’t think he’ll he fired over the bye week. Don’t even think it matters either way if he is. Not sure it’s some big deal to be first to market in this situation. Other than just giving some red meat to the fans i guess?

10/10/2026 7:07:37 PM

For some reason I suspect we will get a bowl game

10/10/2026 9:47:35 PM

Quite possibly! Stanford sucks. Cal isn’t very good. Duke just lost to GT. FSU sucks. Cuse sucks. UNC is ok.

10/10/2026 10:04:55 PM

How does Doeren’s job status affect our savior recruit Gunner Rivers?

10/10/2026 10:20:30 PM

3-3 in the last 6 games of the season

10/10/2026 11:05:55 PM

Quote :

"3-3 in the last 6 games of the season"

10/16/2026 6:11:09 AM

Is that a prediction on the remaining 6 games or just a recap of the first 6 games?

10/16/2026 12:05:36 PM

10/16/2026 7:38:19 PM

Enough is enough

10/24/2026 8:44:15 AM

10/24/2026 9:15:15 AM

There have been multiple times throughout DD’s tenure where you could argue that’s time to fire him. But those times it was always pretty easy to still defend him. we’ve reached the point where it’s 1) obvious he should go and 2) it’s basically impossible to defend him

I think he did a mostly good job coaching State for the last 14 years. I also think it’s clearly time for us to part ways. It’s a new era and some of his strengths don’t translate to this new era. His recent coordinator hires have been bad. His general attitude has not been endearing to the fans. 14 years is a long time. We had some fun times. Thanks, Dave. No hard feelings!

10/24/2026 10:41:01 AM

I mean this is just what we do...couple good years...overall good...after several stagnant years we get new coach...

10/24/2026 11:48:44 AM

Ehh. I don’t think it’s the same cycle. Doeren’s been here 14 years. TOB got 6 years. Chuck got 7. I think Doeren did a good job of elevating the floor of the program and having a level of consistency that TOB and Chuck didn’t. DD never broke through with a big season or big time win on a national stage. 2020-2023 stretch was as good a stretch as we’ve had in my life. 7-3 (weird covid year), 6-2, 4-4, 6-2 in ACC games over that stretch.

I think people forget TOB and Chuck combined to go over .500 in ACC play 2 times. Both had 1 season of 5-3. Doeren has 5 seasons of 5-3 or better. That’s pretty good!

The sport has changed, the job description of head coach has changed has changed, what it takes to run a CFB program has changed. DD was the right guy for State for much of the last 14 years. But he no longer is what’s best for NC State football.

2002 was the peak of (modern) NC State football and we went 5-3 in the ACC, finishing 4th in the conference. We mostly beat a buncha average or bad teams. The excitement and hype was what fans are missing now. But there’s a bit of revisionist history imo about how bad DD has been and how great Chuck was.

10/24/2026 12:24:12 PM

I think StT is confusing our mens basketball cycle which is the exception at nc state

10/24/2026 12:39:51 PM

Raleigh, NC – NC State's McMurray Family Director of Athletics Boo Corrigan has announced that Wolfpack head football coach Dave Doeren has been relieved of his duties effective immediately.

end of an era https://x.com/PackFootball/status/2114113087196533119

10/24/2026 5:58:20 PM

He’s gone. It’s official.


Give me Rivers, I guess. Why not.

10/24/2026 5:58:28 PM

Well that escalated quickly. It does kinda feel like a "why wait" situation. It was a mere formality he was done after the season.

10/24/2026 6:02:35 PM

https://firedavedoeren.com/ is now for sale.

10/24/2026 6:02:49 PM

Kinda glad football and basketball are gonna both end the current season with new coaches

[Edited on October 24, 2026 at 6:11 PM. Reason : \/ new fb coach and current basketball coach that is new]

10/24/2026 6:07:30 PM

Gah you think Gainey is gone? Or Wes Moore?

10/24/2026 6:10:17 PM

That's all folks!

10/24/2026 6:14:19 PM

I edited...can we think of top 10 or 5 best moments? Few unc games...we beat clemson once i think...what else?

[Edited on October 24, 2026 at 6:15 PM. Reason : Bowl record sucked]

10/24/2026 6:14:27 PM

10/24/2026 6:16:03 PM

What's Belichick up to these days? (Steve)

10/24/2026 6:25:39 PM

Rodger Sherman:

Quote :

"And thus ends the longest coaching tenure when nobody was really happy with the coach at any point in time "

10/24/2026 6:35:55 PM

Top moments, in no order, since StT asked

2017 win @fsu. FSU turned out to be not great, but it felt like a big/fun win in the moment.
2017 win over Lamar and Louisville. Thursday night I think.
2020 @Pitt, Leary to Emezie to win the game late in 4th Q was a fun one. Pitt was ranked at the time
2021 win over Clemson
2021 win over UNC (Emezie two TDs, onside kick)
2022 win over UNC (Ben Finley, flag planting)
2023 win over UNC. Complete blow out 39-20 was final but it felt even more one sided than that
2025 win over top 10 GT

10/24/2026 7:15:30 PM

How much extra are we paying to buy out his contract and how much more are we paying the new guy?

This is what's so dumb about contracts. I think we should just stick it out until the end and make all the fans pissed, and then next time don't sign long-term contracts. It's just sports.

10/24/2026 7:36:25 PM

Google just told me 9.75-10.3 million, wonder if they settle at a lower number or his next school pays some of it

10/24/2026 7:40:10 PM

next school? your boy is DONE with coaching

10/24/2026 7:47:02 PM

Now we'll be paying him NOT to coach, while another school hires him, and then we'll shell out even more for a new coach to yield similarly mediocre results, and when the honeymoon is over we'll pay to buy out HIS contact, and the cycle continues. Works great for the coaches!

10/24/2026 7:47:46 PM

^^oh i just assumed he'd get hired somewhere

10/24/2026 7:49:59 PM

Quote :

"2017 win @fsu. FSU turned out to be not great, but it felt like a big/fun win in the moment. 2017 win over Lamar and Louisville. Thursday night I think. 2020 @Pitt, Leary to Emezie to win the game late in 4th Q was a fun one. Pitt was ranked at the time 2021 win over Clemson 2021 win over UNC (Emezie two TDs, onside kick) 2022 win over UNC (Ben Finley, flag planting) 2023 win over UNC. Complete blow out 39-20 was final but it felt even more one sided than that 2025 win over top 10 GT"

I would include welcoming Belichick to the Carter last year with the WW show

10/24/2026 7:54:35 PM

^ yes absolutely an oversight by me

And yeah coaching buyouts are stupid. So many schools get burned by it. But they always find the money somewhere!

Does seem like we’re heading (or already getting there) to a more NFL type structure where coaches don’t get paid as much, player contracts are more important than coach contracts, and you have a GM that handles that shit. Of course it’s all subject to change with the PCSA

10/24/2026 8:53:15 PM

2nd and 3rd to last kept the job, at least the unc part, 2nd and 4th got him fired

10/24/2026 9:16:33 PM

Wonder how many weeks we were ranked of his 14 years

[Edited on October 24, 2026 at 9:59 PM. Reason : Prob like 7]

10/24/2026 9:51:58 PM

43% of his 98 wins were against non P4 teams, including FCS!!!

10/24/2026 10:08:16 PM

^^Gemini says: AP 36 weeks (highest #10 in 2022), CFP 24 weeks

10/25/2026 12:46:54 AM

Damn i wouldn't have guessed nearly that much. I feel like we might crack top 25 peaking at maybe 20 before we'd lose and be unranked again

[Edited on October 25, 2026 at 11:16 AM. Reason : Maybe confusing with basketball again]

10/25/2026 11:15:46 AM

Important to specify total number of weeks.

10/25/2026 2:34:54 PM

Second most losses in program history too.

10/25/2026 6:08:52 PM