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thegoodlife3
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I know that your heart’s in the right place, but Alt National Park Service should not be taken seriously

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"Alt National Park Service @altnps.bsky.social

From coast to coast, city streets to small town squares, you showed up.
And it mattered.
Honored to announce: 12.1 million in attendance."


https://bsky.app/profile/thetattooedprof.bsky.social/post/3lro2e2yp722z

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"I know a lot of folks like this account. But this is a wild, and unhelpful, exaggeration--it's a resistance version of sean spicer. It veers into #resistanceporn and trades accuracy for clout, like other "blue maga" grifters on here. Pls consider finding other sources of inspiration/news/motivation"

6/15/2025 9:17:35 PM

Cabbage
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Why are we believing this guy over Alt National Park Service? Not a challenge, sincere question. I don't see either side presenting evidence for the numbers here. What else are we looking at?

ETA: I did look around the net and see 5 million as a number being mentioned a lot for the size.

[Edited on June 15, 2025 at 9:37 PM. Reason : ]

6/15/2025 9:34:19 PM

thegoodlife3
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https://bsky.app/profile/avesmaria.bsky.social/post/3lro7i7ftx22r

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"can’t believe this still needs to be said, but: stop following altNPS. none of them work for the NPS and they exist to do Qanon numbers station crap and sell merch. it’s annoying for a lot of us that are actually NPS. thanks"

6/15/2025 10:23:58 PM

Cabbage
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^Thanks, I did not know that! I had been wondering if the connection with NPS was in name only, though. Never bothered to check.

6/15/2025 10:37:35 PM

Bullet
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Yes, that estimate does seem to not be credible.

I've been following them on social media since the first Trump admin, and they seem to have some good sources and have broken a lot of "stories" before the MSM picks it up (including the EPA-info in this thread). I don't take their word on everything, but most of what they "report" seems to be grounded in reality, or mostly true at least. And I've only seen them mention a time or two that they had some t-shirts for sale, but there wasn't a link or anything.

But I appreciate the info and will take that into consideration in the future.

[Edited on June 16, 2025 at 9:59 AM. Reason : Who is Aves Maria?]

6/16/2025 9:57:16 AM

thegoodlife3
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https://virginiaweaver.substack.com/p/stop-trusting-anonymous-social-media

I know nothing about the author, but this piece does a good job breaking down why accounts like that shouldn’t be trusted

6/16/2025 11:08:07 AM

thegoodlife3
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https://bsky.app/profile/hypoautonomic.bsky.social/post/3lrtibqdths2l

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" The Alt National Park Service account calls itself the official "resistance" team of the US National Park Service. With 887k followers, is one of the biggest accounts on Bluesky. It is the 11 most followed account according to some trackers.

This thread will dive into its activity."


worth the read

6/17/2025 8:01:01 PM

Bullet
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Interesting, thanks.

Yeah, I never took the code-things very seriously, and didn't really buy-in to the whole "resistance" thing, but again, It's had some useful info, some that I saw there before seeing on other sources (including MSM), but some of it seemed that it needed to be taken with a grain of salt. I'll definitely be even more skeptical in the future.

Today's response to the crowd estimate

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"A lot of people have questioned our No Kings crowd estimates. Most are citing a 5 million turnout, which is fair. It’s conservative and easy to verify. The media claims L.A. only had 25,000 people, but it doesn’t take much digging to see that number is very low. Other sources report “thousands,” and anyone who was there knows it felt like far more.

That said, we’re not here to argue. We respect the groups releasing those numbers, they did an incredible job organizing and collaborating. Shout out to the ACLU, Indivisible, and 50501. Amazing work.

What matters is this: the turnout was historic. The exact number doesn’t change what happened. This administration has tried to paint protests as violent riots, but you showed the country what peaceful, powerful resistance really looks like. We’re proud of all of you! Next time let’s make it even bigger!"

6/18/2025 10:05:14 AM

HaLo
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Making
Asbestos
Great
Again

https://apnews.com/article/epa-trump-biden-asbestos-ban-ed91d880ca88522ea689165234df1afd

6/18/2025 7:41:41 PM

The Coz
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Trump admin proposes to revoke EPA’s ability to make rules about climate pollution

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/29/climate/trump-epa-endangerment-finding

Yep, I guess we're doing this.

7/29/2025 2:06:46 PM

marko
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rip urf

7/29/2025 2:49:25 PM

Bullet
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https://www.wral.com/story/nc-sues-trump-epa-over-canceled-solar-grants-for-12-000-families/22201906/

10/16/2025 12:59:05 PM

thegoodlife3
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https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/12/climate/trump-epa-air-pollution.html?unlocked_article_code=1.D1A.S-Uc.tLvgWi-hkniV&smid=nytcore-ios-share

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" E.P.A. to Stop Considering Lives Saved When Setting Rules on Air Pollution

In a reversal, the agency plans to calculate only the cost to industry when setting pollution limits, and not the monetary value of saving human lives, documents show."


I can’t believe these evil people keep doing evil things

1/12/2026 2:02:40 PM

The Coz
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No one could have known it would be like this. . .

1/12/2026 5:37:42 PM

TerdFerguson
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^^ It’s an interesting full circle for this thread.

If you read the OMB report in the OP, it says it right there in the summary that EPA’s air pollution rules produced the biggest benefits of the study, 62% to 82% of all the benefit accrued that was calculated for the study.. One of the reasons it is so high is the decades of research linking increased mortality associated with poor air quality (asthma, cardiovascular issues, dementia, etc). The EPA used “Value of a statistical life” to monetize lives saved/improved and it was $7Mill during that study (and like $10Mill in today dollars ). It adds up quickly year after year.

The executive summary also says that EPA’s air pollution rules are also pretty expensive. Accounting for up to 50% of the regulatory costs included in this study. If you eliminate a proper accounting of the benefits, EPA air quality rules just end up looking stupid expensive, and you can scrap this entire thread.

1/12/2026 8:45:14 PM

moron
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They’re the oil company protection agency

1/12/2026 9:42:50 PM

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