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The Coz
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^^We don't need artificial content generators to be able to see nude images of the current First Lady of the United States.

1/2/2026 2:34:21 PM

StTexan
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Nttawwt

1/2/2026 2:54:26 PM

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"I assume that ChatGPT and others refuse to generate such content? And Grok is the only one that complies?"


they have been making chatgpt a bit more permissive as well, although grok definitely has lower guardrails for nsfw stuff. the open source models are very good these days though, and folks who like to spend their time generating photorealistic waifus have plenty of options.

i think the larger legitimate issue is the nonconsensual nsfw stuff with real people, rather than generating make believe people in nsfw scenes. people have been photoshopping faces on naked bodies forever though, so this is not a particularly new issue.

1/2/2026 3:00:40 PM

The Coz
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But in the past you could tell by the pixels.

Where is your Grok NOW?!

1/2/2026 3:11:34 PM

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It feels obviously different from someone using a passive tool like photoshop vs grok actively creating this image AND posting it on the internet. If governments around the world had any teeth, seems like grok would be back to offline mode for a awhile at minimum.

[Edited on January 2, 2026 at 3:21 PM. Reason : The account that asked was suspended, what about the account that posted? ]

1/2/2026 3:20:24 PM

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"passive tool like photoshop vs grok actively creating this image"


again, AI models do what humans ask them to do. grok didn't "decide" to create and post any images. humans did, and grok either complies or it doesn't.

the difference is the level of technical skill required for a person to make a nsfw (or otherwise haram) image/video has changed. a human needs to know how to use photoshop at a level of skill that few have or are interested in developing. but nearly all humans can describe in plain language to a model what they want, and it'll do it (unless the model is specifically constrained by the model developers for certain uses, which isn't even a 100% foolproof thing at this point, if ever)

1/2/2026 3:28:47 PM

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Have you guys read about that issue at a Louisiana school where a girl got kicked out for fighting a boy that had shared an NSFW picture of her that had been generated by one of those nudity AI tools?

They really need to get a handle on this shit and soon. I feel for teenage girls these days. My daughter is one as well, and I honestly am lost when it comes to trying to protect her from shit like this. :/

1/2/2026 3:35:23 PM

The Coz
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I heard about it on a legacy news network. I didn't read about it.

But with three young nieces, I share your concerns.

1/2/2026 3:42:17 PM

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"I feel for teenage girls these days. My daughter is one as well, and I honestly am lost when it comes to trying to protect her from shit like this."


i get it, i got kids of all genders to worry about over here too. again though, these are problems about ourselves. it is our own human nature we are navigating, it's not really about the technology. we all know how our generation, on this very site included, approached nsfw images/videos of people whether they were public figures or people irl. i can list 10 girls right off the top of my head who have had to ask me to take down nsfw content (whether authentic or not).

my advice to my kids (which reminds me, i will remind them of all this when i pick them up in an hour) ultimately is to focus on being strong, resilient individuals who know who they are and won't let the handful of assholes in this world dull their shine.

[Edited on January 2, 2026 at 4:05 PM. Reason : can we say both genders on tww or will i get suspended]

1/2/2026 4:04:05 PM

CaelNCSU
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https://x.com/grok/status/2007122333891211274

Think of the billionaires!

Locally we had a case where a girl generated a pic of someone at a school and got arrested. Iirc her boyfriend generated it and she shared it and only the girl got in trouble.

https://weartv.com/news/local/pensacola-police-17-year-old-girl-arrested-for-sending-out-ai-generated-nude-photos

1/2/2026 6:56:53 PM

moron
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I think this was just musk the Nazi’s attempt at marketing

They clearly put a full nudity block in place but not a child porn block? He knew people would do it, they’d then add the typical safeguards in, and go on to the next thing. Also serves the purpose of bringing even more scumbags into Twitter. It’s funny you can generate exploitative pictures on Twitter but you can’t say “cisgender” without risking a ban.

1/3/2026 12:36:16 AM

moron
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The Nazi keeps nazing:



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" This was also what Charles Manson was saying before his arrest. Almost word for word.
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1/8/2026 4:21:22 PM

moron
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Full context on what the Nazi Elon musk was affirming today:


[Edited on January 8, 2026 at 5:41 PM. Reason : ]

1/8/2026 5:40:43 PM

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Am I misremembering or wasn’t there a whole debate, likely itt, about it being unfair to call Musk a Nazi/white supremacist? Maybe I’m misremembering. But yeah Musk ain’t best those allegations.

1/8/2026 5:45:13 PM

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can i add some more context

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"I am extremely opposed to anti-Black laws, but equally opposed to the laws against White people or other races too. There should be a fair and even playing field."


i just don't see a nazi white supremacist saying something like this

i'm not saying i agree with any of what elon is saying about South Africa. i haven't much bothered to educate myself on whatever might be going on there or what his complaints are about. i'm just saying what I see him saying, and what I see you saying about him, they don't add up. the circle doesn't square. you need new equations.

[Edited on January 8, 2026 at 5:49 PM. Reason : maybe it's a different type of Not Good. but your regression analysis has low r2]

1/8/2026 5:47:35 PM

moron
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^^
The whole reason we learn about Nazis in school is to look for the patterns so history doesn’t repeat itself. It’s necessary to call people Nazis when they’re acting like Nazis— and treat them like Nazis too.

^
It’s not my regression, it’s your dataset

[Edited on January 8, 2026 at 5:51 PM. Reason : ]

1/8/2026 5:49:10 PM

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" The whole reason we learn about Nazis in school is to look for the patterns so history doesn’t repeat itself"


accurate pattern recognition is important. this nazi and his legacy has been at work for 100 years and y'all can't see it for whatever the fuck reason i still can't figure out

1/8/2026 5:52:39 PM

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^^ yeah, im agreeing with you. Was just pointing out that like 9 months ago the debate was “come on he’s not actually a white supremacist, you can’t just throw that accusation around when his actions don’t back it up” and here we are and Musk still isn’t beating those allegations and the evidence keeps piling up.

1/8/2026 6:24:53 PM

moron
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I had ai make an interactive data viz on why restorative justice or as a Nazi would say “anti white laws” are necessary. It’s not Black v White as Musk is Nazily phrasing it, it’s what the American Government owes the people.

https://ironj.github.io/restorative_justice

This link might render better:
https://ironj.github.io/assets/apps/restorative-justice/dist/index.html

[Edited on January 8, 2026 at 7:00 PM. Reason : ]

1/8/2026 6:53:52 PM

qntmfred
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so anyone who doesn't agree with your particular vision of restorative justice is a Nazi

[Edited on January 8, 2026 at 7:06 PM. Reason : you're gonna have to rewind the clock a couple million years if you want to undo all harms humans have done to each other]

1/8/2026 7:05:28 PM

moron
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No just uneducated on the topic

Musk is a Nazi because he pals around with Nazis and promotes Nazi ideology to billions of people

[Edited on January 8, 2026 at 7:07 PM. Reason : ]

1/8/2026 7:06:46 PM

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Nazi ideology being

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"I am extremely opposed to anti-Black laws, but equally opposed to the laws against White people or other races too. There should be a fair and even playing field."


[Edited on January 8, 2026 at 7:08 PM. Reason : you can be educated on a topic and say "I get where you're coming from but I don't think that's gonna work or is as fair as you think it is"]

[Edited on January 8, 2026 at 7:08 PM. Reason : you're really just an authoritarian yourself who wants to call anybody a Nazi who disagrees with u]

[Edited on January 8, 2026 at 7:08 PM. Reason : and just wait until the anti AI freaks come for you. its all illiberal loser talk]

1/8/2026 7:07:38 PM

moron
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Musk doesn’t mean fair though. He wants to cement the white supremacist status quo, the math is fairly clear on this.

1/8/2026 7:09:12 PM

StTexan
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Do i need to post the diagram of how much money musk has compared to others again?

[Edited on January 8, 2026 at 7:13 PM. Reason : Not that i think musk is a white supremacist or nazi]

1/8/2026 7:12:22 PM

qntmfred
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^^that's your interpretation. and I think your math is wrong.

[Edited on January 8, 2026 at 7:13 PM. Reason : ^ having money is not a bad thing. the US government having bad tax policy is the problem ]

[Edited on January 8, 2026 at 7:14 PM. Reason : I'd much rather talk about the money instead of arguing about fucking race in 2026]

1/8/2026 7:12:24 PM

moron
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My math is correct, musk is a Nazi and white supremacist.

1/8/2026 7:14:54 PM

StTexan
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There is a such thing as someone having too much of a share of money. Like unfathomable amounts

1/8/2026 7:15:28 PM

The Coz
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There aren't any "laws against white people".

WTH?!

So sick of white fragility. What a loser's attitude. You have every possible benefit, and yet it's always someone else's fault that you're a failure at life. GTFO!

1/8/2026 7:19:01 PM

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He's talking about South Africa. I don't know whether it's true or not. But I have seen the videos of South Africans chanting kill the white people or whatever it was. That doesn't seem very nice and I can understand why Elon would protest it

1/8/2026 7:23:14 PM

The Coz
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Respectfully, he's retweeting a post by a guy talking about "if white men become a minority", yet in South Africa, white men already ARE a minority (by a long shot), so in my view the quoted post is not about South Africa at all, even if Elon is sharing his own personal insecurities with the world from a South African's perspective. He's amplifying racist views. I would like to see you agree to that. What is the concern with not being a majority? That's basically just an admission that minorities are typically oppressed -- True! How about some similar concern shown for those who live their lives in oppression already?

I hope you'll excuse a link to Wikipedia rather than Grokipedia. I promise I didn't just edit it to support my point:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_South_Africa

1/8/2026 7:43:27 PM

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^^ just seems like you’re being willfully ignorant about musk

He’s promoting this in the context of America. He promotes great replacement theory— the idea being America by government policy should be kept as a white nation. In service of this he promotes lies about non whites like the Somalis eating cats and dogs thing, and a long history of other racist accusations of different groups. He constantly retweets actual neonazis who definitely don’t believe in the “fairness” you’re projecting to musk. In musk’s case being a Nazi is a choice, that in my decade of being a musk fan and defender, seems to be because he’s mad about his transgender child. I think musk could potentially choose to be a decent person again, but you can’t ignore his current pattern of behavior by cherry picking from his weasely statements.

[Edited on January 8, 2026 at 7:43 PM. Reason : ]

1/8/2026 7:43:28 PM

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"He’s promoting this in the context of America."


it's right there in the tweet i linked. he's talking about south africa.

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"South Africa now has more anti-White laws than there were anti-Black laws under Apartheid!"



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"He promotes great replacement theory"


i've seen him mention it a handful of times, which i agree is eye roll inducing at minimum. but from what i've seen, he talks about this issue moreso in terms of the risk of civilizational collapse generally and the effect of immigration policy in an era of low birth rates. and (afaik) he talks about falling birth rates globally, not just in the West, or among Whites specifically.

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"the idea being America by government policy should be kept as a white nation"


i know many great replacement weirdos do think of it in terms of keeping whatever country as a white majority nation, but there's another great replacement theory variation that focuses more on keeping whatever country as a Western Enlightenment Values nation, and does not focus on race. I see elon as more concerned about this. that's why he said

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"The reason I’m in America along with so many critical people who built SpaceX, Tesla and hundreds of other companies that made America strong is because of H1B.

Take a big step back and FUCK YOURSELF in the face. I will go to war on this issue the likes of which you cannot possibly comprehend."


he sees western enlightenment values as the path to the stars. he doesn't care about your race, he cares about your ability to be Smart and Work Hard to build more awesome things in the world. that's what the G in MAGA is for him. it's not about being white. it's about being a Great Human who helps push back the veil of ignorance.

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"seems to be because he’s mad about his transgender child"


agreed.

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"I think musk could potentially choose to be a decent person again"


agreed.

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"you can’t ignore his current pattern of behavior by cherry picking from his weasely statements"


that's just the thing though. i'm trying to look at ALL his statements, and try to interpret the elon puzzle with all the pieces included.

you won't look beyond YOUR cherry picked data points, and then interpret the data points you do have in the worst possible framing.


and the stupid thing about all this, is I'm NOT an elon stan. I think he's done some Great things, and I think he's done some Terrible things.

the reason I waste my time posting here is frankly bc I'm twwers stan. It irritates me to no end to see all my friends lose their minds on this and so many other topics of importance.

if I saw my son get radicalized online and start saying "only white people are good" I'd flip out and lecture him as much as I could get through to him and hope it wasn't too late to drag him back to reality

likewise

if I saw my daughter get radicalized online and start saying "white people are evil" I'd flip out and lecture her as much as I could get through to her and hope it wasn't too late to drag her back to reality

but kids gonna make their own choices and I just hope you don't do too much damage to yourselves and others while you're going through this rebellious phase.

1/8/2026 8:52:40 PM

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