^Here is one that is pretty fucking sad about his own daughter and if she was raped.
https://x.com/CraicAddict89/status/1838848185084616904

[Edited on September 10, 2025 at 7:24 PM. Reason : ]

9/10/2025 7:24:28 PM

He supports genocide; you can't get worse than that.

9/10/2025 7:34:38 PM

^

Quote :

"I’m very pro-Israel"

[Edited on September 10, 2025 at 7:50 PM. Reason : beat me to it]

9/10/2025 7:49:56 PM

Guess who is lamenting his death... Satanyahu, but ofc.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DOb3t_4iFwM

[Edited on September 10, 2025 at 8:02 PM. Reason : ]

9/10/2025 8:02:27 PM

So his life's work is basically "I hate you" and that's now grounds for killing and celebrating a death? At least I understood the vibe surrounding Luigi but this seems orders of magnitude less.

Edit: big yikes "supporting Israel" is grounds for assassination now.

[Edited on September 10, 2025 at 8:22 PM. Reason : .]

9/10/2025 8:21:28 PM

I know one thing... Vi Lyles just let out a deep exhale

9/10/2025 8:53:52 PM

I don't know a lot about him but I recall him saying abortion was worse than the Holocaust

9/10/2025 8:54:18 PM

Quote :

": big yikes "supporting Israel" is grounds for assassination now. "

I wouldn't necessarily be surprised if oep believes this, but he def didn't say it. You asked what is the worst thing Kirk said, OEP gave an opinion; nowhere in there was a statement that saying that worst thing deserves assassination.

[Edited on September 10, 2025 at 10:11 PM. Reason : E]

9/10/2025 10:11:05 PM

He definitely believes it. Context clues and post history told me so.

Also there are numerous users here who feel literal glee over Kirk's death. They don't have to say so and nobody needs your dumbass saying acktually. lol

9/10/2025 10:20:18 PM

Classic

9/10/2025 10:27:42 PM

That's it? Are you too busy writing a Facebook post that gets you called into your principals office tomorrow?

9/10/2025 10:31:14 PM

^Praying for you. Amen

9/10/2025 11:34:24 PM

Thanks. I felt the spirit of the Lord upon me as soon as I read your kind message. I also asked xim to please forgive these violent idiots who think they want to fight and protect everyone else who's going to get caught in the crossfire of the saddest revolution ever.

9/11/2025 6:44:30 AM

I'm not sure I even understand that insult, is that I'm immature, that I get in trouble at work or that he thinks I'm a school teacher? All of the above?

9/11/2025 3:02:28 PM

+1

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"The Congressional Progressive Caucus, a group of nearly 100 House Democrats, will announce later today that it's formally endorsing legislation to strip $175 billion from ICE and put it toward affordable housing. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/doj-fed-powell-golden-globes-2026_n_6964c61ee4b0b3be67eb8c89/liveblog_6967f35de4b0141cc9b21166"

1/14/2026 7:50:02 PM

It is hard to get excite about fruitless partisan legislation. If I wanted to cheer on fruitless partisan politics, I'd wait for Trump to get impeached

1/14/2026 8:38:21 PM

It shows what they would do if they win, it's the bare minimum

1/14/2026 10:23:10 PM

Project 2027?

1/14/2026 10:27:05 PM

I have my guesses on how the news that Gomez and the Democrats want to give $175B to "first-generation" homebuyers instead of enforcing immigration law will be received by people in this country who are upset the Democrats allowed 10M+ illegal immigrants into the country, some of which are accused of stealing billions of dollars from American taxpayers

1/14/2026 10:38:05 PM

Half the ideas dems come up with Trump prolly gonna try to copy anyways, this dude does whatever sounds good in the moment

1/14/2026 11:25:09 PM

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" I have my guesses on how the news that Gomez and the Democrats want to give $175B to "first-generation" homebuyers instead of enforcing immigration law will be received by people in this country who are upset the Democrats allowed 10M+ illegal immigrants into the country, some of which are accused of stealing billions of dollars from American taxpayers"

this post is so damn telling

1/15/2026 12:54:45 AM

1/15/2026 1:25:40 AM

^^ the figure, 10+ million, is false - straight up propaganda

what's the cause and effect on swallowing propaganda?

https://cmsny.org/correcting-record-false-misleading-statements-on-immigration/

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"Assertion: More than 10 million undocumented immigrants have flooded across our border during the Biden administration, while the Trump administration saw the lowest number of crossings in United States history. Response: This is a misleading statement, as the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) characterizes border crossings as “encounters,” when migrants are encountered by the Border Patrol and can be returned. According to DHS, over 4 million of migrants encountered have been returned and 20-25 percent encountered are repeat offenders, severely lowering the total amount during the Biden administration. In addition, the asylum-seekers who have been released into the country lawfully, having been vetted and processed by DHS and given a notice to appear for court proceedings. The number of migrants who have crossed undetected into the United States is much lower. Annual apprehensions at the border increased nearly 15 percent under President Trump until the border was closed under Title 42 in 2020. Moreover, the Trump administration released a higher percentage of migrants into the country than the Biden administration, by 52.2 percent to 48.6 percent over a two-year period."

[Edited on January 15, 2026 at 9:03 AM. Reason : source: Center for Migration Studies]

1/15/2026 9:01:40 AM

i know it was a long sentence, so let me attempt to reframe it in a way that makes it easier to understand the point i was making

are there people in this country who are upset the Democrats allowed 10M+ illegal immigrants into the country?

yes, i think we can all agree that there are people who are upset for that reason. whether they believe it's 10M, 20M or 4M, it doesn't much matter. they're upset about illegal immigration (and probably even more upset that Democrats aren't also upset about it and are encouraging it instead).

will those people see headlines about Gomez and the Democrats wanting to give $175B to "first-generation" homebuyers?

yeah, probably.

does qntmfred have any guesses on how those people will react to those headlines?

he does.

[Edited on January 15, 2026 at 10:37 AM. Reason : .]

1/15/2026 10:32:35 AM

why are you talking about how Republicans feel in the Progressive Dems thread?

1/15/2026 11:03:40 AM

why do you think. action. reaction.

1/15/2026 11:04:36 AM

repeating the lie number makes it seem like you believe in and are validating the lie

yes, I realize that lots of people are upset because they believe lots of lies
part of the reason people believe them is because other people repeat them without qualifying that they are lies

1/16/2026 12:02:42 AM

What is the generally-accepted correct figure?

1/16/2026 7:22:09 AM

there isn't one because, as you can imagine, it's very hard to get accurate measurements of clandestine criminal activities

but even the Heritage Foundation doesn't go for the 10+ million number
they claim 6.7 million

https://www.heritage.org/border-security/report/the-biden-administration-has-brought-additional-67-million-illegal-aliens

I think a lot of this comes down to conflating "encounters" with successful entries by illegal immigrants
an encounter is an instance where an illegal immigrant was apprehended or presented themselves at a port of entry -- because this can happen multiple times for a single person there is likely to be a fair amount of double counting

in terms of crossings, US Border Patrol itself estimates the number of "gotaways," the term they use for people who were detected crossing the border but weren't apprehended at 2 million

The 10 or 6.7 million number is being conflated with the 2 million number.

Of course, I no longer believe in the veracity of government generated figures under this current administration. They have demonstrated that they lack the rigor to produce serious estimates and they are willing to lie to further their agenda.

1/16/2026 9:13:12 AM

not that it really matters bc like I said, the number isn't the point, but when I was talking about "people in this country who are upset the Democrats allowed 10M+ illegal immigrants into the country" I wasn't saying anything about number of illegal immigrants who entered the country specifically during Biden's term. These people were already upset about illegal immigration in 2016 when Trump first ran. so saying "the figure, 10+ million, is false - straight up propaganda" is incorrect in this context.



[Edited on January 16, 2026 at 11:27 AM. Reason : pew]

1/16/2026 11:24:24 AM

One of the things that frustrates me about the political environment in this era is that the most important political/social problem (by at least an order of magnitude) I want to see addressed is income inequality, and while that's a hard enough problem to solve in the first place, my should-be allies on the left have been too busy burning down any chance of political success on this front because they're terminally distracted by a handful of counterproductive ideas and worldviews. I hate having to spend so much of my time and energy waiting for "the left" to realize what has happened to them and get back to business of trying to advocate for a healthy economic system that maximizes prosperity for the most people. I've often referenced Tim Urban's writings on this topic, but my friend from the Israel/Palestine/Zionism/Antisemitism threads also does a good job imo of trying to shine a light on it, while also remaining even more to the left than I am.

2/26/2026 1:18:03 PM

Quote :

"I want to see addressed is income inequality, and while that's a hard enough problem to solve in the first place, my should-be allies on the left have been too busy burning down any chance of political success on this front because they're terminally distracted by a handful of counterproductive ideas and worldviews."

like what?

it’s also pretty rich that this is coming from someone who has gone out of their way to cape up for billionaires

2/26/2026 1:50:33 PM

Quote :

"like what?"

that's why I posted the video.

Quote :

"this is coming from someone who"

you're doing the thing. when i criticize the left i'm doing it bc i want the left to be successful. it's like if i'm at work and some of my coworkers are being dumb, i want to tell them "hey, what you're doing is dumb and is not going to help us accomplish our goals" but i'll get accused of caping for the marketing department or some nonsense.

which is why I'm letting this guy explain it instead. he's got credibility that i apparently do not. he's much more to the left of me. he doesn't cape for billionaires. he can't be smeared as a "tech bro." he's a jew who criticizes israel. he's smarter, better looking and more charismatic. if you can't hear me bc of my "transgressions" maybe you can at least recognize the truth when he says it. cus he wants the left to win too, and probably more than either you or I do.

2/26/2026 3:11:58 PM

This is sort of off-topic for the argument you guys have going on between yourselves, but talking about income equality is going to be a much bigger issue in the next couple of years. Most of us white-collar workers have the potential to be severely impacted by the use of AI. Whether it is going to be legitimate job displacements or just CEOs jumping the gun, a lot of people that make good salaries are going to be put out of work.

Income inequality might sort of solve itself to a certain extent. Sure, there will always be the millionaires and the billionaires, but the middle class is going to get lopped off at the head. The problem is going to trickle through the government and the economy though because AI doesn’t pay income taxes. AI isn’t going to contribute to Medicare and social security.

It is going to be a big problem.

This is likely going to be the opening the progressive democrats can use for some sort of basic universal income.

2/26/2026 4:13:44 PM

Quote :

"that's why I posted the video."

I don’t care about the video. I’ve watched plenty that you’ve posted. it shouldn’t be too hard of an ask to explain why you, the person who posts on here, feels the way you do.

2/26/2026 4:24:08 PM

I kinda admire progressive’s undying belief that anyone, so long as they channel the deeply held leftist beliefs held by all Americans, can win in any district. The contempt progressives have for anyone that considers electability I could do without. You can’t blame voters for considering electability given how voters continually prove it matters, often in dumb or gross ways, but it matters. In a rural R+5 district, are you really going to lecture democrat voters for choosing a successful local farmer with a chiseled jaw over a lesbian, unemployed wilderness therapist?

3/4/2026 6:55:54 AM

Hear, hear

3/4/2026 10:00:17 AM

^^not to say it's inaccurate, but can you provide some real world examples?

3/4/2026 10:15:11 AM

I want to be clear that I am not criticizing progressive candidates for running in a primary or for progressive voters for supporting those candidates. I am talking about the contempt I have felt from progressives for even considering what amounts to the establishment candidate, simply because I think the establishment candidate is “more electable.” Given the last decade, you have to be sympathetic to voters including this criteria in their decisions. Yes, I think this decision making results in some gross, often racist/sexist/religious based decisions.

The reference above is to the recent NC-11 primary. Electability for Dems is an issue for Dems in WNC. Asheville drives a lot of Dem politics in the district. For the rest of the district, it’s a hard knee jerk reaction against anything or anyone that emanates from that machine. It’s not hard to see why voters might favor a candidate with broad appeal but much more hazy on actual policy. The only Dem in my lifetime to win the district had to be a former star Quarterback. He ended up being a Blue dog back when that was still a thing, but a Blue dog would be refreshing for the district at this point.

3/4/2026 11:06:47 AM

https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/anti-trans-democrats-blown-out-in

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"Anti-Trans Democrats Blown Out In North Carolina Primary Election Anti-trans Democrat Nasif Majeed lost to Veleria Levy, who ran on a pro-LGBTQ+ platform. Other conservative Democrats lost as well on primary day."

3/4/2026 12:41:29 PM

So that just tells you that a majority of the primary voting Democrats prefer a more progressive candidate who may well go on to lose the general due to their unpalatability to the general electorate. And so the cycle continues. . .

Not saying progressive candidates aren't objectively better, but I'm not sure what point your quote is proving.

3/4/2026 1:40:12 PM

it’s proving that it’s bad politics to attack a minority of people for assumed political gain

3/4/2026 2:11:31 PM

I think tgl and tf post are unrelated. Seems like Majeeds district is deep blue, based on some mild research.

As to TFs point, I tried to also look into nc 11,taking a guess at the candidate you mean, it doesn't look like they had any progressive weight behind them and nobody really voted for them anyway. I think that's a case where folks need to separate "Progressives" as a large group with money and policital power vs a random "progressive" candidate that ran a campaign, especially at lower levels like state HOR.

[Edited on March 4, 2026 at 2:19 PM. Reason : "Other conservative Democrats lost as well on primary day." didn't research these]

3/4/2026 2:18:54 PM

But isn't the point that just because a more progressive dem might have a better chance of winning a primary (among a limited number of democrat and independent voters) doesn't mean the more progressive candidate has a better chance of winning the general (among all voters)?

3/4/2026 2:41:27 PM

“the party that’s explicitly racist won the last election, therefore to win the next election, the opposing party much turn the racism dial up a few notches” is an absurd take

be the party that doesn’t move an inch when it comes to taking rights away from a minority

[Edited on March 4, 2026 at 2:54 PM. Reason : .]

3/4/2026 2:52:38 PM

Quote :

"But isn't the point that just because a more progressive dem might have a better chance of winning a primary (among a limited number of democrat and independent voters) doesn't mean the more progressive candidate has a better chance of winning the general (among all voters)?"

But the inverse could just as easily be true? And in reality you don't know someone's electability until the election but the term is always used as a cudgel.

Hilary was electable until she lost

Biden was electable, and correct, but then not electable 4 years later (and age was def brought up in primary)

Maybe the Bernie/Warren/whoever else goes 0-3 and gets creamed but its all poll readers guesses, not a real thing.


Fetterman lost a primary vs a moderate candidate, moderate lost. Then Fetterman won primary vs moderate candidate and won general, and Fetterman is a big goofy weirdo (obviously that turned out poorly but to electability point)

[Edited on March 4, 2026 at 3:45 PM. Reason : D]

3/4/2026 3:41:11 PM

^^^^this guy also seems pretty normal and the incumbent has run unopposed in the general multiple times

Quote :

"At the end of the day, she didn’t sound any better than some of these ultra-conservative people who were demeaning Black and Brown folk on a regular basis,” said Rev. Rodney Sadler, a Bible scholar and longtime community activist in Charlotte. “It felt like a betrayal of the utmost.”"

3/4/2026 4:36:03 PM