In season 1 your bar is top 3?

6/1/2025 5:33:57 PM

Justin is right that another scorer, particularly a guard, will need to emerge. I also think top 3 is a stretch. I think Duke and UL look like 1 and 2 but after that I think it’s pretty open. Just to read headlines (haven’t followed it super closely), it sounds like Uva and Miami have had good offseasons. UNC and Clemson will be in the mix too. But I don’t think there’s any reason we shouldn’t be contending for a top 4 spot and the double bye in the ACCT. I don’t necessarily think that should be the expectation with anything less than that being a disappointment. But unless the ACC is way way better than last year, I think it’s a realistic goal.

6/1/2025 5:38:52 PM

Quote :

"In season 1 your bar is top 3?"

No, i have just seen it thrown around a bunch that we could be a top 3 team and i just think that is drinking an awful lot of red kool-aid while wearing rose colored glasses.

6/1/2025 6:31:04 PM

Who has thrown that around other than random online goofs?

6/1/2025 7:38:05 PM

I think we might have a decent team?

Quote :

"Lubin had a solid season at North Carolina, as he became the team's starting center on a very small squad. Down the stretch, Lubin arguably the Tar Heels' best player, finishing the year with 11 consecutive double-digit scoring performances. Of those 11 games, Lubin recorded four double-doubles, becoming a much-needed preesence in the post area."

6/2/2025 10:10:12 AM

Oh so you think we're top 3 in the ACC???

6/2/2025 10:35:34 AM

Quote :

"Who has thrown that around other than random online goofs?"

random online goofs are people too.

In fact, you are a random online goof!

6/2/2025 11:17:15 AM

I am THE random online goof!

Goof Prime

6/2/2025 11:56:16 AM

In Justin's defense, here's a random espn goof putting us 3rd in acc just ahead of a UNC at #24 overall
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/45425929/ncaa-basketball-top-25-rankings-2025-2026-florida-houston-nba-withdrawal-deadline

But mostly posting bc the projected starting lineup will cause a reaction

6/2/2025 12:06:52 PM

Assuming that the NCAA approved 15 basketball roster spots per team for next year, Lubin wouldn't even sniff the 14th spot in the rotation for UNC next year.

6/2/2025 5:45:08 PM

Quote :

"According to Jamie Shaw of ON3, 5-Star Point Guard King Gibson (6’5?/180), the #4 overall player in the nation in the 2027 recruiting class, will be taking an unofficial visit to NC State this weekend."

6/4/2025 9:46:23 AM

Excited to see how our high school recruiting improves. Transfer portal is obviously an important part of roster building. But hopefully we’re only replacing a couple guys though the portal every year and building from high school recruiting. That seems a little more sustainable.

6/4/2025 10:52:10 AM

lol. dmspack = Dabo "Mervin" Swinney EXPOSED

6/4/2025 12:44:41 PM

It’s true

6/4/2025 1:22:46 PM

So is Trump's ban on the Congo going to affect Mbiya making it to campus?

6/5/2025 9:13:25 AM

I kinda think he's from the other Congo

This is from a Twitter rando so it MUST be right

Quote :

"Trump banned the Republic of Congo Paul Mbiya is from the Democratic Republic of Congo."

6/5/2025 10:03:17 AM

Well I'll be damned, i must have forgotten they're two different countries.

Zaire became the DRC in 1965.

6/5/2025 10:27:24 AM

Sounds like all is good to go with Mbiya, although the eligibility issues with these international dudes are a bit of an unknown. Lots of other teams dealing with the same thing, and maybe he has to sit out a few games at worst (in Mbiya‘a particular situation). We are going to have legit talent/depth at pretty much every position and one of the oldest teams in the NCAA terms of average age. I think top 3 in the ACC sounds be about right, could be better if everything clicks.

6/8/2025 8:53:13 AM

Dammit, soon as I saw the article about that Wyoming kid committing I knew someone was about to decommit. I thought they said Mbiya had signed an NIL deal already.

6/18/2025 5:25:32 PM

Mbiya not coming. Some big dude from Wyoming is coming. He is large. His stats are underwhelming considering his size and the presumed lower level of competition

6/18/2025 5:26:13 PM

^^

Quote :

"requested a release from his NLI today, "

6/18/2025 5:42:36 PM

^OIC

I wonder if the final details of the House deal messed with Mibya's NIL money. I can find almost no information about how the NIL clearinghouse is going to work. But they make it sound like Deloitte can kill an NIL deal if they decide it is oversized based on a bunch of criteria -- including school specific stuff like the local market and "market reach" of the program.

[Edited on June 18, 2025 at 5:45 PM. Reason : .]

6/18/2025 5:44:48 PM

THE KEATTS KURSE KONTINUES

Also this new guy doesn't seem very good. But hey he's big!

^i don't think that would have any effect. He probably just wanted more money than initially agreed upon. It happens. And is a much simpler explanation. But hey we're state fans and making up elaborate conspiracies is much more fun than being reasonable!

6/18/2025 6:31:52 PM

"a rule change affected the deal" seems perfectly reasonable. I tend to think your explanation is more likely but none of us know. Seems like the former would be a slight fuck up by the coaches/GM, not a conspiracy.

[Edited on June 18, 2025 at 7:05 PM. Reason : "asked for a release from his deal" sounds more like the latter too]

6/18/2025 7:05:03 PM

I don't think the house settlement would immediately impact his current deal, plus I don't believe he wouldn't be able to get significantly more anywhere else with regards to what is allowed by a clearinghouse.

Just seems a lot more plausible that someone in his corner either got wind of a better deal somewhere else or thought they could pressure us into more money. His stock seems to have been steadily rising so i expect the former is the case and he'll be on campus at a B1G/SEC school very soon.

6/18/2025 7:34:29 PM

No argument with that

6/18/2025 7:47:25 PM

Quote :

"I don't believe he wouldn't be able to get significantly more anywhere else with regards to what is allowed by a clearinghouse"

This is why I mentioned the note about the local market of the school that supposedly weighs on their calculation. It would be very easy to argue that legit local NIL deals for a backup player at UCLA or St Johns is worth many times what a backup player at a mid-level city could pull down.

Also, that is only one of many reasons the deal could get hosed. Some of his deal could have been dependent on NIL money that didn't properly meet the criteria such as "whether the NIL activity is for a valid business purpose to promote goods or services that are available to the general public (for profit)."

BTW, the NIL review system launched last week -- thus the suspicion that it was related to clearinghouse shenanigans.


Here's the best article I can find so far:
https://sports.yahoo.com/college-sports/article/what-is-nil-go-and-why-is-it-the-latest-subject-of-debate-among-college-sports-leaders-120028561.html?guccounter=1

This is not good for the big NIL collective schools in the short term:

Quote :

"For example, Deloitte officials claim that 70% of past deals from booster collectives would have been denied in their algorithm, while 90% of past deals from public companies would have been approved. Deloitte has also shared with officials that about 80% of NIL deals with public companies were valued at less than $10,000 and 99% of those deals were valued at less than $100,000."

Sounds like a lot of collective money is getting dinged against the revenue share.

That maybe helps us in the long term since we seem committed to a big basketball revenue share. Though I'm sure collectives will get really good at gaming the system once they get a sense of what the criteria are.

[Edited on June 18, 2025 at 9:28 PM. Reason : .]

6/18/2025 9:08:20 PM

Sad to hear about Mbiya. Thought he had great potential.

6/18/2025 11:29:50 PM

Quote :

"This is why I mentioned the note about the local market of the school that supposedly weighs on their calculation. It would be very easy to argue that legit local NIL deals for a backup player at UCLA or St Johns is worth many times what a backup player at a mid-level city could pull down"

I seriously doubt that they would approve deals for players in LA/NYC that were "many times" what they would for someone in Raleigh. First, that will immediately be contested (and overturned) in court. Second, it openly tilts the playing field towards large metro areas, and most NCAA members would oppose this. The internet is king now, and that doesn't require a person to be in NY/LA to rep a brand.

Quote :

"Also, that is only one of many reasons the deal could get hosed. Some of his deal could have been dependent on NIL money that didn't properly meet the criteria such as "whether the NIL activity is for a valid business purpose to promote goods or services that are available to the general public (for profit).""

So you're saying the only player on the team whose NIL money would be affected by this was Mbiya? Seems extremely unlikely.

All of the scenarios you've put forth are definitely possible, it just seems waaaaaay more plausible that he wants more money/is getting more money from someone else.


On a side note, i hope this NIL clearinghouse does completely destroy NIL collectives. They don't need to exist and never have. Just a way for weird middle aged dudes to skim money from suckers while writing off luxury suites and trips to bowl games/whatever.

6/19/2025 12:54:33 AM

You're right. It is far more likely that some school just decided to sit on a bunch of cash, wait 3 months, wait for the draft to go by, wait for everyone to show up at their agreed school for summer workouts, and THEN swoop in with a bigger offer.

6/19/2025 1:52:42 AM

My guess is that with VAL signing and presumably getting starter minutes, another program came in with a bigger offer/more prominent role. Or Mbiya shopped himself for a bigger role.

I understand VAL is undersized and I’m not saying he’s way better than Mbiya because I don’t know. But VAL is proven at the power 5 level. Mbiya isn’t.

[Edited on June 19, 2025 at 8:02 AM. Reason : H]

6/19/2025 7:33:19 AM

^wow neve knew you were so into UNC players smh

6/19/2025 10:53:24 AM

I’m actually just a super fan of VAL. Been following him since his days at whatever school he was at before UNC!

6/19/2025 10:55:15 AM

Mbiya to kansas

6/25/2025 11:31:29 AM

FUCK

6/25/2025 12:32:02 PM

He's getting that huge Lawrence, Kansas market NIL deal now!!!! If only we could compete with that huge metropolis.

6/25/2025 12:45:11 PM

J#s continues to impress with his thorough research. It is not well-known that Lawrence is only a 40 minute drive from downtown Kansas City and its metro population of 2.2+ million people (700k more than the Raleigh metro). Kudos J#s. Continue dropping that knowledge.

6/25/2025 3:53:05 PM

Kudos to you for thinking this couldn't simply be Mbiya getting more money from a school with a bigger budget! Continue living in your fantasyland!

6/25/2025 4:08:40 PM

There's literally a podcast episode out there explaining exactly what happened with Mbiya now. It wasn't that some school all of a sudden showed up with more cash. Apparently, we wanted him matched with the other international guy (who's name escapes me) because we were worried about how raw Mibya was. So when we whiffed on the other guy, we ended up spending a ton on Lubin and apparently didn't have enough left to pay Mbiya. At the end, we were even helping him find a place that he would fit well at and could pay him.

Edit: I'm only picking on you because you keep getting on here and posting strong-ass opinions and trash other people's opinions, but it is painfully clear that you aren't bothering to even Google whether what you're saying makes sense. Like talking about the clearinghouse thing and how what i posted couldn't possibly work because of lawsuits. But the article about the clearinghouse covers that, saying that everyone agreed to use arbitration to limit a massive wave of lawsuits.


[Edited on June 25, 2025 at 4:27 PM. Reason : .]

6/25/2025 4:16:51 PM