New Yarvin (distilled from billions and billions of words) with hints on the democratic messaging to come:

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" The story now seems clear: the second Trump administration is a tragedy. And yet: besides absolute power, everything else is just a way to lose. That’s just where we are in history now. If the GOP loses the next Presidential election, Trump will spend the rest of his life in court or in jail. This will also be true of all prominent Trump supporters, appointees, donors, etc. This will be an all-you-can eat barbecue of fully-funded lawfare and endless fawning PR. Every Democratic prosecutor in the country will find a way to do her part in cleaning up the ruins of Trumpism. That is, rounding up and bayoneting the defeated veterans. Surely something Trumpy must have happened in her district? MAGAts are lurking everywhere. Cut and sterilize. The American red states will be treated like the Scottish Highlands after 1745. I exaggerate. Slightly. And as for the American populist voters, all the wealth, power and energy of the real America, which is coastal America, blue-state America, cool America, will be directed at making sure they never, ever get another chance to vote their way out of this one. trails winding up through the Darien Gap from every hive on the planet, is closed. Yay! It can as easily be opened again. Indeed it can be opened much wider! And if we lose again, it will be. It only takes one judge to decide that “no person is illegal”—and this is far from the only bureaucratic way to skin that cat. The symptom has not been even durably cured. It’s still a fail. The border is not the only thing that will be opened much wider, if you had anything to do with this little failed revolution. They will prosecute everyone, for anything. They will treat Trump appointees like January 6 trespassers. Even if you held some obscure cultural or scientific position. And who knows if they would be wrong? Indeed, I hear more and more about actual, straight-out corruption in the admin. I’m sure it’s nowhere near Biden or even Clinton levels—but they can get away with it and we can’t. And while Clinton was better at it than Biden, he was not as much better as Biden is better than Trump. Corruption is not just about the government losing money, but also about it degrading the legal fabric—so the less brazen, the better. "

[Edited on December 28, 2025 at 9:32 AM. Reason : A]

12/28/2025 9:31:44 AM

k

12/28/2025 9:59:24 AM

more drivel from the king of the dipshits

12/28/2025 10:44:50 AM

You don’t agree the second trump admin is a tragedy? That’s shocking!

12/28/2025 10:49:45 AM

I agree that it's tragic.

12/28/2025 11:17:45 AM

your tragic and Yarvin’s tragic aren’t the same

12/28/2025 12:22:18 PM

I assume that's correct.

12/28/2025 1:39:01 PM

Yarvin generally thought Trump was a dip shit. There was a brief period after this election where given the Elon and doge situation he considered maybe they would accomplish something different. True bureaucracy shredding. But obviously given Gaza and whatever this Venezuela shit is it looks like he’s co-opted by the machine.

In addition, he spent all his political capital on arresting grandmothers and closing taco stands. I’d assume even if you don’t agree with the policy and ideology you’d probably agree that the implementation was kind of fucked. Trump is a tragic figure from his time as a celebrity turning into a demagogue. He’s also tragic from the angle of taking the strongest political tailwind we’ve had and fumbling the shit out of it.

12/28/2025 2:26:44 PM

Damn you and my neighbor phill would probably be the best of friends

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"He’s also tragic from the angle of taking the strongest political tailwind we’ve had and fumbling the shit out of it."

I keep hearing this take from people that are disappointed. It boggles my mind that people really thought there was some redeeming quality in Trump being re-elected. This shock almost that things haven't turned out spectacular, or that Trump is full of shit. All the while the never trumpers feel like for the most part everything is going generally how we expected it to go

[Edited on December 28, 2025 at 2:43 PM. Reason : The "destroy the system" types]

12/28/2025 2:32:05 PM

His administration is like 20 years younger, our generation, than any other in the past who knows how many decades. Also filled with a lot of the new guard elite. Structurally it was way different than the first term. The hope was he could bring the needed boomercon vote to win and the new, hungrier younger could smash heads and fix things.

Instead it’s basically been a cuck zuck letting people say retard and sacks and trumps kids running crypto scams so trump can bomb like he’s Obama. Guess not having DEI training for a few years is cool. I’m going ahead and prepping my four year old he can be a girl if he wants since he’ll be in 1st grade by the time Trump is sodomized to death by a rainbow unicorn on Kimmels show.

12/28/2025 2:48:57 PM

Thats another thing I've noticed with my neighbor Phill, and it seems perhaps you. I think a lot of us, while disliking Trumps first term, would gladly take that again versus what we have now. You and Phill would disagree and say this term was his chance to fix what he got wrong with who he had around him in term 1



The disconnect between trump supporters and detractors on trump term 1 and 2

Also your hyperbole is telling in regards to trump sodomized on kimmel etc

[Edited on December 28, 2025 at 3:01 PM. Reason : Etc]

12/28/2025 2:57:34 PM

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" The hope was he could bring the needed boomercon vote to win and the new, hungrier younger could smash heads and fix things."

would love to hear your idea of things that needed fixing

I know what Yarvin’s ideas for fixing things are

[Edited on December 28, 2025 at 3:12 PM. Reason : .]

12/28/2025 3:06:08 PM

^ stop printing money to bomb brown people (and to a lesser degree giving it to the rich to prop up asset prices and saddling humanities majors with crippling debt that can’t be written off)

12/28/2025 3:50:44 PM

If you remember, I did not vote Trump 1. I think the disconnect you’re describing as the boomer or normie con who still thinks the system works and the constitution and voting the right person can fix it.

My foundational myth is somewhere around Obama with the bailouts, bombing Syria and writing off Bernie in the DNC. There are legitimate gripes for the policy changes that shipped all the jobs away in the 90s. The elite class gets bigger, yachts, and nicer jets. It works great for them. It doesn’t if you’re a poor uneducated person in rural North Carolina. Not everyone can learn to code. Some people can’t even program a multifunction remote or even use them. And even if they did they’d work harder to replace them with AI.

I’d love a space vacation but if that means putting say the bottom 80 percent in third world conditions just don’t think it’s fair. And gas lighting them with racism and white privilege while the rich print themselves richer and make happy meals cost $20.

[Edited on December 28, 2025 at 4:09 PM. Reason : A]

12/28/2025 4:02:04 PM

Presidents are just figureheads of the institutions represented by the people they hire. MAGA institutions have always been stuffed with bottom feeders and religious nuts and racists (project 2025 was all 3). Where was there any sign trump would be hiring competent people? The first admin he had traditional republicans around him so I could see having this belief in 2016. But 2024… makes no sense to think trump would have a shred of competency

The only competent person trump has selected so far is the NASA administrator and he almost didn’t do that.

This was partially Kamala’s problem— lack of charisma aside she had fairly typical corporatist democrats around her. I don’t think democrats will go as far as Yarvin thinks but they definitely should if they want to save American ideals.

12/28/2025 4:11:02 PM

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"Presidents are just figureheads of the institutions represented by the people they hire. MAGA institutions have always been stuffed with bottom feeders and religious nuts and racists (project 2025 was all 3). Where was there any sign trump would be hiring competent people? The first admin he had traditional republicans around him so I could see having this belief in 2016. But 2024… makes no sense to think trump would have a shred of competency"

You are framing this as some fight against competence. My frame is stop what's been done since Iraq 2 and hold those accountable that have continued doing the opposite for what I was voting against 20 years ago (psychosis I know, voting and thinking shit would change). Why would I want people that have kept bombing brown people and cozying hard up to Wall Street and Pharma?

Iraq war, bailouts, opioid epidemic (and deindustrialization the decades prior).

12/29/2025 6:26:07 AM

It seems like a lot of elaborate narrative crafting (New Guard Elites!, Young and hungry fixers smashing heads!, but it’s all been “cO-oPtEd bY tHe mAcHiNe!1!1!.”) to help soothe the fact you (and Curtis Yarvin) got conned.

12/30/2025 12:32:14 AM

^exactly what I was trying to say earlier

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"My frame is stop what's been done since Iraq 2 and hold those accountable that have continued doing the opposite for what I was voting against 20 years ago"

It to me is clear the antiestablishment people are not only not the way, it is naive and short sighted. Saying stuff like "whatever this Venezuela shit is" just proves how delusional you were and how he "conned" you as turdferguson said

12/30/2025 12:41:38 AM

^its fuckin racist honestly

12/30/2025 3:11:06 AM

^ whatever Venezuela shit is: bombing drug boats, bombing the country, ground invasion, press distraction

Not really a fan of any of it no matter the excuse or whatever it turns out to be.

New guard elites is a reference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circulation_of_elites

I was critical of Trump prior so I wasn’t conned by trump. More mega wrong that Elon and the momentum there would get cucked as hard as he did. Signs were there, people don’t like being rule by tech nerds with no social graces.

12/30/2025 6:04:36 AM

Consider the possibility that Elon got what he wanted and all his political rhetoric was an element of the con. You don’t spend $270 million and just get sidelined.

12/30/2025 7:54:23 AM

I have no idea how one could type out those things that they said needed fixing and think that Elon or anyone under the umbrella of the right would be the ones to fix it

Yarvin wanted them to destroy the system to establish a monarchy. while I 100% disagree and think that’s one of the dumbest fucking ideas I’ve ever heard, I can see his logic

I can’t see the logic in thinking that this crew of world historic awful people would be the ones to fix things

12/30/2025 9:48:37 AM

^^ That's certainly possible if you ignore what's happened in the EV space. Totally possible one of the AI initiatives backed by the government is getting Elon even more influence and power. At least publicly Elon seems unhappy that Sam Altman is involved in Stargate.

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"Yarvin wanted them to destroy the system to establish a monarchy. while I 100% disagree and think that’s one of the dumbest fucking ideas I’ve ever heard, I can see his logic I can’t see the logic in thinking that this crew of world historic awful people would be the ones to fix things "

Yarvin's point is any big crisis or government change, let's say FDR in the 1930s, was practically a monarchy. This has happened 3 times in the US's history (Washington, Lincoln and Roosevelt). Old bureaucracies and agencies are destroyed and new ones are formed with some of the original, but different names.

This crew was not the previous crew. Several of the inner circle spoke to some of the fundamental problems directly. They mentioned books like "Machiavellians", "Propaganda", "Amusing Ourselves to Death", and "Culture of Narcissism". Heavy 20th century works that kind of pinpointed some of the political problems we have today way in advance of seeing them. Obviously, it's unlikely Trump has read any books but his circle certainly did.

12/30/2025 5:04:48 PM

and actual scholars who know what they’re talking about have repeatedly refuted his FDR bullshit

12/30/2025 5:17:53 PM

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"The argument that FDR permanently shifted the center of gravity toward executive agencies, and that this created a self-perpetuating bureaucratic infrastructure that operates with considerable autonomy from electoral politics—that’s a serious claim shared by scholars across the spectrum, from Philip Hamburger’s Is Administrative Law Unlawful? to more mainstream administrative law critics."

Care to expand? He uses monarchy to by hyperbolic and grab attention. Massive expansion of executive power happens though.

Yarvin is full of shit, but he’s well read and has a lot of the context down.

12/30/2025 5:46:19 PM

here’s one column about it:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/22/opinion/trump-vance-yarvin-monarchy.html?unlocked_article_code=1.A1A.C3U7.rQZWi169AAnF&smid=nytcore-ios-share

12/30/2025 7:01:54 PM