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StTexan
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I'll give her some dem babies

9/12/2026 7:59:43 PM

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-26

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/sep/14/jasmine-crockett-chris-brown-texas-backlash

9/14/2026 2:14:51 PM

rwoody
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How can you live through this and think the right answer is to work with him? Can you see all this criminality and think the answer is to "get back to work"
https://youtu.be/d7WoxVp4jjs
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"I had not seen this clip where Tammy Duckworth advises Democrats to "not impeach anybody," "get back to work" and "allow" Donald Trump to "save face" and I would just like to remind the senator from IL that the federal government took 4,000 Chicagoans and murdered a 38-year-old father last fall. ?"

9/24/2026 7:16:36 AM

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She’s like the people who thought the titanic was unsinkable and just wanted to finish her cocktail while the alarms were sounding

9/24/2026 9:54:48 AM

StTexan
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Dems need a project 29 type thing

9/24/2026 9:58:34 AM

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"New: Some Democrats don’t expect to fill a Supreme Court vacancy under Trump

BLUMENTHAL: "I think it is slim to none that we would support a nominee from this administration."

GALLEGO: "No, we’ve got to do exactly what McConnell did to us."

Big 2026 court stakes: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democrats-dont-expect-fill-supreme-court-vacancy-trump-rcna600908"


Good, if true

10/5/2026 8:43:10 PM

StTexan
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Oh god can see that fetterman dude like putting them over the top or something

10/5/2026 8:45:58 PM

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https://www.nytimes.com/2026/10/28/us/politics/alaska-dan-sullivan-conspiracy-peltola.html

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"In the summer of 2025, a staffer for Mary Peltola, the Alaska Democrat who was eyeing a run for Senate, received unusual instructions from top campaign aides: Find as many people named Dan Sullivan in Alaska as you can.
The staffer complied, combing through voter records to produce a list of Dan Sullivans from across the state.
This was no random request. Dan S. Sullivan is the name of the state’s Republican senator. And if the Peltola campaign or its allies could track down and persuade another Dan Sullivan to run for Senate, the confusion could cost the senator crucial votes on the state’s unusual, four-person ballot.
The plan worked. This spring, a retired teacher from a tiny fishing village along the Alaska Panhandle, reachable only by air and sea, announced his candidacy for Senate. His name was Dan J. Sullivan."


reminds me of this

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"And this isn't the first time the Dems have played dirty. We all know how the Dems treated Bernie and his wing in 2016 and 2020. Dems are out there this year spending donor money to boost extreme MAGA candidates in GOP primaries in hope that it'll give them an edge in the general. See Doug Mastriano in PA. and I know the GOP plays even dirtier. It's dirty either way, and this kind of behavior is why institutional trust among the public has eroded over the last several decades to the point where according to latest Gallup polls, over 60% of Americans think neither Dem or GOP do an adequate job and that a third major party is needed.

We can acknowledge that the GOP is a nightmare, but also that the Democrats suck ass too, and work toward something better. And it's because they have both cemented their place in the US political environment, and they can get away with sidelining any competition, whether it's progressives within the Dem party, or any number of third parties."


how are Dems supposed to convince voters that they're "on the right side of history" when they do stupid stuff like this trying to cheat the system

10/28/2026 1:13:44 PM

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Politics is a dirty game. While a bit shady, doesn't seem like there'd be anything illegal about that. And pretty tame compared to a lot of the shenanigans the republicans are pulling/trying to pull.

10/28/2026 2:53:45 PM

thegoodlife3
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Democrats have been bringing a knife to a gun fight this whole century

it’s not illegal. take out the fascists by all (legal) means necessary

10/28/2026 3:07:12 PM

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"we're allowed to be cheaters because we're the Good Guys" isn't a convincing thesis.

win elections by being Better than the alternative. if you can't do that, get out of the way for people who can.

[Edited on October 28, 2026 at 4:15 PM. Reason : is it so hard to just denounce deceitful, unprincipled, dishonorable, immoral, Stupid tactics for once]

[Edited on October 28, 2026 at 4:21 PM. Reason : recognizing its Origins]

10/28/2026 4:09:30 PM

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Doesn't cheating imply something illegal is going on? It's definitely shady but that's how Alaska's rules are written.

10/28/2026 4:14:44 PM

qntmfred
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pick whatever terminology you want, it stinks.

10/28/2026 4:20:22 PM

thegoodlife3
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^^^ you got excited for another “this is why the Dems suck” story

this story doesn’t matter at all. it won’t change votes.

it’s catnip for the anti-anti Trump camp

[Edited on October 28, 2026 at 4:21 PM. Reason : .]

10/28/2026 4:21:06 PM

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It's not "cheating". It's just taking advantage of dumb and/or misinformed voters.

[Edited on October 28, 2026 at 4:22 PM. Reason : i meant "uninformed"]

10/28/2026 4:21:34 PM

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do I sound excited??

[Edited on October 28, 2026 at 4:31 PM. Reason : dems should stop making catnip]

10/28/2026 4:30:33 PM

thegoodlife3
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the only people who think this matters whatsoever are ones who are the quickest to shit on the Dems

you’re operating under the framework of a political climate that hasn’t existed in 25+ years

10/28/2026 4:56:21 PM

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"I'm begging you to.....take a few deep breaths, and think about what you want 2050 to look like."

10/28/2026 5:05:05 PM

thegoodlife3
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2050 could look great if Dems use every tool in the toolbox to make sure the right never has power again

10/28/2026 5:11:40 PM

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not all tools are worth using

[Edited on October 28, 2026 at 5:27 PM. Reason : lie, cheat, steal, imprison and murder on the way to your utopian one-party totalitarian state]

10/28/2026 5:26:36 PM

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"take out the fascists by all (legal) means necessary"

10/28/2026 7:40:53 PM

StTexan
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You can't negotiate with terrorists

10/28/2026 7:48:24 PM

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^^^There are times when you are, however, forced to use tools you would rather avoid, simply for survival. For example, I do not condone killing a man, but I would do so in order to protect the life of myself or a loved one. Sometimes defense necessitates extreme measures, unfortunately.

It's nothing to be proud of, but there is danger in failing to recognize this.

10/28/2026 8:07:10 PM

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Son: Daddy, why are there two Dan Sullivans on the ballot?
Daddy: The person people voted for last time is named Dan Sullivan but we don't think the person WE want to win this time will get enough votes so we secretly recruited a second Dan Sullivan to run because we figured some Republican voters would be too stupid to tell them apart.
Son: Isn't that cheating?
Daddy: It's completely legal!
Son: But I thought we were trying to save democracy?
Daddy: We are!
Son: By trying to trick our neighbors?
Daddy: We don't like our neighbors.
Son: Won't they be angry when they find out?
Daddy: Probably.
Son: And won't voters think we're cheating?
Daddy: Some might.
Son: So the plan is to make Republicans hate us more and the rest of the voters trust us less?
Daddy: ...
Son: Is this why you keep losing elections?


[Edited on October 28, 2026 at 8:21 PM. Reason : any other fathers in here? check my #MATH]]

10/28/2026 8:18:29 PM

thegoodlife3
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the people currently in charge are evil people who are doing evil things

we’re well past the point of worrying about reading through a Terms and Conditions list

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"Son: Is this why you keep losing elections?"


a very normal thing for a kid to ask


[Edited on October 28, 2026 at 8:23 PM. Reason : .]

10/28/2026 8:21:56 PM

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I mean in that case let's just murder all Republicans on the ballot right?

[Edited on October 28, 2026 at 8:26 PM. Reason : I AM RECOGNIZING ITS ORIGINS]

10/28/2026 8:26:16 PM

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The only thing that stops a bad man with a propaganda is a gooder man with a propaganda.

-- Bernays probably

10/28/2026 8:27:47 PM

thegoodlife3
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for the third time:

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"take out the fascists by all (legal) means necessary"

10/28/2026 8:28:11 PM

qntmfred
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^^ probably

[Edited on October 28, 2026 at 8:31 PM. Reason : ^ I'm sure somebody will find a loophole]

10/28/2026 8:31:27 PM

thegoodlife3
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is your tune going to change if there’s a tidal wave in the midterms next week?

10/28/2026 8:35:07 PM

CaelNCSU
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^^ we need a term for people like Quakers/pacifists are to violence, but for anti-Persuasion people. I would have agreed with you in 2015, but switched.

^ what do you mean? It already looks like a tidal wave. Betting markets are like 99% blue in anything remotely contested.



[Edited on October 28, 2026 at 8:41 PM. Reason : A]

10/28/2026 8:36:42 PM

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"but for anti-Persuasion people. I would have agreed with you in 2015, but switched."


I get it. I don't like any of this. There are few good options.

[Edited on October 28, 2026 at 8:48 PM. Reason : ^^ in what way would it change? Will yours change next cycle when they do it to us x10?]

10/28/2026 8:47:27 PM

thegoodlife3
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because for the last 2 years the two of you have blamed Dems going too far left as a reason why 2024 happened like it did

there hasn’t been much if any moderation by Dems running in 2026

would it not shatter your whole theory if Dems win huge next week?

10/28/2026 8:49:13 PM

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ah, I see what you mean. I can reply to that hypothetical a little later, sure

[Edited on October 28, 2026 at 8:54 PM. Reason : I have zero midterm predictions other than Coop winning]

10/28/2026 8:54:16 PM

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Alaska has ranked choice voting, so if you are too stupid to know which Dan Sullivan you want to vote for, can't you just rank them 1 and 2?

10/28/2026 8:59:14 PM

StTexan
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Lol damn the coz don't play at all son. Hes like gtfo

[Edited on October 28, 2026 at 9:04 PM. Reason : The coz is a fair no nonsense dude!]

10/28/2026 9:03:32 PM

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It also says (Republican) Incumbent by one


This felt relevant
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"The political media is visibly chafing at the current situation, where Republicans are glaringly awful, fucking everything up, running deviant candidates everyone hates, and Dems are just being normal & winning. The force is out of balance. They are viscerally eager to go after Dems about something.
The minute Dems gain any power at all, watch them descend like locusts, hyping an endless series of fake scandals fed to them by the same RW slop machine that's been playing them for fools for decades. They can't wait."

10/28/2026 9:03:57 PM

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would it not shatter your whole theory if Dems win huge next week?
"


Kamala was a particularly terrible candidate but given the last two years she looks like Lincoln. People would rather have literally anyone else. Trump spent literally all his tail winds and sickness with the left and torpedoed it.

10/28/2026 9:13:12 PM

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^^^
I mean, it's not a good look to be caught on something so obvious, but it's also so minor compared to the other hijinks going on this cycle, and it makes no tangible difference in the outcome unless you really are as dumb as you are apparently concerned the Republican electorate is.

(The generic "you", not YOU. . .)

How is this any different The Pirate Captain kneecapping Will Quick? And we all enjoyed that. . .

10/28/2026 9:17:30 PM

thegoodlife3
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^^ whatever you have to keep telling yourself

some of us have always known what the right has always been. others have looked to justify their bigotry in voting for the right.

[Edited on October 28, 2026 at 9:20 PM. Reason : .]

10/28/2026 9:19:44 PM

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Quote :
"Son: Daddy, why are there two Dan Sullivans on the ballot?
Daddy: The person people voted for last time is named Dan Sullivan but we don't think the person WE want to win this time will get enough votes so we secretly recruited a second Dan Sullivan to run because we figured some Republican voters would be too stupid to tell them apart.
Son: Isn't that cheating?
Daddy: It's completely legal!
Son: But I thought we were trying to save democracy?
Daddy: We are!
Son: By trying to trick our neighbors?
Daddy: We don't like our neighbors.
Son: Won't they be angry when they find out?
Daddy: Probably.
Son: And won't voters think we're cheating?
Daddy: Some might.
Son: So the plan is to make Republicans hate us more and the rest of the voters trust us less?
Daddy: ...
Son: Is this why you keep losing elections?"


Son: Daddy, why did you kill that man?
Daddy: He was pointing a gun at your head. ***
Son: But isn't killing wrong?.......


***And I consider this line analogous to multiple, unprecedented Republican efforts to subvert elections. The vast majority of Republicans in Congress have actually normalized January 6. They view 2020 as a stolen election. They have a very effective, very powerful propaganda machine that sells this point of view...and this is culmination of a few decades of right wing media efforts to present themselves as the only source of truth, while "legacy media" is spun to favor Democrats.

They are already setting the stage to question the results of this election, should Democrats win big.

I am open to alternatives that are not as deceptive...provided they are effective.

But if something isn't done, the ones that are cheating as we speak will win.

Do you think desperate cheating is ever justified to spoil a party that is literally in the process of making cheating their modus operandi? If not, do you have any ideas for an effective alternative?

And please keep in mind, messaging at this point is extremely difficult to impossible for a significant portion of the population. Many Republican constituents have been told, repeatedly, that you can't believe anything coming out of Democrats, or mainstream media.....and that has been very effective....


...to the point that even actual, hard evidence is rejected offhand. If messaging is the answer, there absolutely must be a new strategy, because none of the old strategies work anymore. Honestly, I am at a loss as to what a successful strategy might look like.

10/28/2026 9:45:53 PM

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The economy is fucked and the right's vision is at best scary communists and robots are going to cater French laundry to your house after they take your job. The middle isn't motivated (and even your golden calf can't scare them into voting for the right).

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"to the point that even actual, hard evidence is rejected offhand. If messaging is the answer, there absolutely must be a new strategy, because none of the old strategies work anymore. Honestly, I am at a loss as to what a successful strategy might look like."


People said this about Republicans after 2012. Whatever it is it will look obvious in hindsight.

[Edited on October 28, 2026 at 9:52 PM. Reason : A]

10/28/2026 9:49:54 PM

thegoodlife3
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and after 2012, they turned the Racism Dial to an 11

10/28/2026 10:07:43 PM

CaelNCSU
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If they is elites in power to make culture war issues suck the populism trend from 2008 out of the zeitgeist then yeah I agree.

10/28/2026 10:10:08 PM

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Re Dan Sullivan it’s an actual crime:

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Legal Cases and Status

• Alex Rodriguez: Pleaded guilty on August 24, 2021, to two campaign finance crimes, receiving 3 years of probation, 1 year of house arrest, and a $20,000 ethics fine. He cooperated and testified against Artiles.
• Frank Artiles:
• Convicted on September 30, 2024, on three election-related counts: conspiracy, illegal/excessive campaign contributions, and false swearing.
• Sentenced to 60 days in county jail, 5 years of probation per count, and 500 hours of community service (with the sentence stayed pending appeal).
• Appealed the conviction to Florida's 3rd District Court of Appeal, arguing that the campaign contribution law is unconstitutionally vague and that evidence regarding Rodriguez's background was improperly excluded, as detailed by the Miami Herald.

"

10/28/2026 10:15:34 PM

thegoodlife3
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doubt the elites are to blame for the King Birther winning the GOP nom in 2016

10/28/2026 10:16:30 PM

rwoody
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^^ I think you're confused about the crime described in your quoted text

10/28/2026 10:51:24 PM

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^ the text is just to jog your memories. This was a case in Florida where they did basically the exact thing, find a guy with the same name to run a race to try to split votes. The guy the recruited got convicted and the guy who did the recruiting got convicted. Both slaps on the wrist. Didn’t invalidate the election results though. Pretty crazy story and actual election fraud.

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" Republican Ileana Garcia won the 2020 Florida State Senate District 37 election.
• Winner: Ileana Garcia (Republican)
• Defeated: José Javier Rodríguez (Democrat), losing by 32 votes
• The "Ghost Candidate": Alex Rodriguez (No Party Affiliation), a third-party candidate recruited and funded in a scheme by former Republican State Senator Frank Artiles to siphon votes from the incumbent, received over 6,000 votes.
• Aftermath: Frank Artiles was convicted of multiple felony campaign finance and election charges for orchestrating the scheme

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I can’t see how this is different than what Peltola is doing but if we’re following the same rules she should get a slap on the wrist and keep her seat if she wins.

10/28/2026 11:10:44 PM

rwoody
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Bc he was paid, the crime is violating campaign finance laws, not asking someone to run

10/28/2026 11:32:17 PM

StTexan
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I bet at least 50% of his vote is legit people wanting to vote for him vs the others. I think its kinda rude to think no one would vote for the dude

[Edited on October 28, 2026 at 11:50 PM. Reason : Not anyone here...just in general how repubs are all bitchy]

10/28/2026 11:47:56 PM

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