It sounds like The Coz conveniently forgot that the Epstein drive hasn't been invented in this universe yet. Mars isn't even a free colony/planet yet!

[Edited on April 15, 2026 at 8:14 AM. Reason : ]

4/15/2026 8:14:24 AM

Well, shit.

Looks like I'm a disgrace to the memory of Ed Baldwin.

4/15/2026 6:54:44 PM

Alex better go join Lee at the ISN base.

4/17/2026 9:44:44 AM

Damn, looks like Wraith was wrong about Sojourner not being able to easily make the trip to Titan.

4/17/2026 4:20:25 PM

Science PWNT! Stay home.

4/18/2026 8:47:07 PM

Got a kick out of the Sosumi Mac alert sound still being used in 2012 in this timeline.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sosumi

4/19/2026 11:59:39 PM

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"Damn, looks like Wraith was wrong about Sojourner not being able to easily make the trip to Titan."

They haven't made it to Titan yet. All they should was it lifting off (horizontally as a space plane, mind you) from a spaceport. They conveniently left out how an aircraft/spacecraft designed to launch from the moon in 1/6g and zero atmosphere is able to do that. But I guess plasma engines or something.

4/20/2026 9:14:50 AM

Space Harrier!

4/20/2026 10:11:12 AM

I'm so going to laugh when they arrive at Titan by the next episode like it was nothing.

4/20/2026 10:33:41 AM

They gonna hypersleep.

4/20/2026 10:37:12 AM

Why do they need hypersleep when they can be there in 5 minutes

4/20/2026 12:48:55 PM

But didn't the Russian governor specifically say something about X billion kilometers?

I will have to re-watch.

4/20/2026 1:50:37 PM

Even with them able to get to Mars in a month, if Saturn just happened to be at its closest to Mars and they were able to maintain that same pace, it would take them like a year to get there.

4/20/2026 2:20:16 PM

dErPloY tEh SoLaR sAiLs!!!

4/20/2026 4:34:00 PM

^^ Could in theory be going faster than Earth to Mars velocity wise? Accelerate massively and then flip and burn to slow down

4/20/2026 8:44:11 PM

Where are they putting all that fuel? In a vehicle that was designed to travel less than 1 AU?

4/21/2026 9:54:57 AM

It appeared to have two external fuel tanks mounted on top.

Alternatively, they could be using magic.

4/21/2026 12:16:24 PM

Sounds like they are space scorpioning the shit out of it

What if they just use an asteroid to push them there faster?

4/21/2026 3:01:30 PM

So Aleida told her family she'd be gone a year and she was sticking around at least until Sojourner landed...

transit to mars - 1 month
getting Sojourner ready - x
Sojourner transit to Titan - y
transit back from mars - 1 month


So the combined time to get a 20 year old spacecraft, that has been stripped for parts and sitting unprotected on the Martian surface, back to flight readiness, retrofitting it with fusion drives, and it landing on Titan is 10 months.

4/24/2026 6:56:20 PM

You'd think they could do it faster if they weren't so lazy

4/24/2026 6:59:19 PM

That borscht did look pretty good, though, NGL.

4/25/2026 8:42:07 PM

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"back to flight readiness"

Not just back to flight readiness mind you -- with a completely new/updated design so that it could survive Martian ascent, deep space travel for a significantly longer amount of time, and Titan descent/surface environments.

4/26/2026 6:34:18 PM

So why can't we just dust off some Apollo stuff from a museum and land on the moon in a couple months from now?

4/26/2026 6:58:45 PM

We could but the man doesn't want us to

4/26/2026 7:19:07 PM

Dev's about to end these riots.

4/27/2026 9:49:59 AM

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"So why can't we just dust off some Apollo stuff from a museum and land on the moon in a couple months from now?"

Well now that you mention it, in Wonder Woman 1984 they went to the Smithsonian Udvar-Hazy in DC and just took a plane that was on display. It was luckily already fueled up and ready to go, but even though it had been sitting there for years without maintenance they were able to just start it up and fly to Africa. So it could work.

4/27/2026 10:41:30 AM

Got me thinking about how the space ship in MIB still worked in 1997...33 years after the World Fair

4/27/2026 11:21:40 AM

I was pleased when they covered Lenya’s mouth with duct tape. Dev should’ve been packing heat. I thought he was a goner.

5/2/2026 8:04:58 PM

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"Well now that you mention it, in Wonder Woman 1984 they went to the Smithsonian Udvar-Hazy in DC and just took a plane that was on display. It was luckily already fueled up and ready to go, but even though it had been sitting there for years without maintenance they were able to just start it up and fly to Africa. So it could work"

Yeah but that's a reality that has a bunch of magic fairies flying around.

5/2/2026 11:40:39 PM

They mentioned in the last episode that it was 18 months to Titan from Mars. To put that into perspective, it would take Voyager 1 about 3 years to go that distance, and that is a small uncrewed spacecraft. Voyager 1 is one of the fastest spacecraft in operation right now -- although Parker Solar Probe hit higher peak velocities, its sustained cruise velocity isn't as high.

5/4/2026 9:17:24 AM

Why do you hate fun

5/4/2026 1:26:59 PM

It's fun to pick apart a show that was billed as 'hard scifi'

5/4/2026 1:53:24 PM

Hard was clearly referring to the erections it causes

5/4/2026 3:34:42 PM

Did you ever think that different people have fun in different ways? No you didn't, because all you think about is yourself.

5/5/2026 9:06:25 AM

No, i actually think about you a lot

5/5/2026 10:36:48 AM

It’s hard sci-fi for people who love big bang theory, but not the Expanse

5/5/2026 11:59:11 AM

I miss the Expanse.

At least the books got a fitting conclusion

5/5/2026 2:18:24 PM

So I guess now that Kelly is halfway to Titan, that means the odds of her banging her son's best friend like her mother did are pretty low.

5/6/2026 8:20:10 AM

But not zero. Never zero.

5/6/2026 8:41:21 AM

True. Her son's best friend is currently training to be a marine on Earth. He could get deployed to Titan as part of a rescue mission and end up getting invited to explore Kelly's "happy valley" if you know what I mean.

5/6/2026 9:29:03 AM

I bet he'll hook up with Danny's daughter first.

5/7/2026 6:22:46 AM

What a hilariously reckless maneuver that doesn't even seem to make sense from a timing perspective. The hit atmo like 5 seconds after their burn window?

5/8/2026 1:53:03 PM

Wraith - what kind of equipment would Sojourner need to make propellant on Titan?

5/8/2026 3:26:28 PM

Also those EVA suits are hilariously bad. Surface temps on Titan are COLD

5/8/2026 7:16:05 PM

Yeah, I just looked it up: average surface temp on Titan is negative 290 F. Brrrrr.

5/9/2026 5:39:15 PM

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"Without a specialized, heavily insulated pressure suit, a human exposed to the atmosphere of Titan would freeze to death or succumb to related effects in approximately 10 to 20 seconds."

5/9/2026 5:40:51 PM

They just used aerogel. Duh!

5/9/2026 5:50:49 PM

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"Wraith - what kind of equipment would Sojourner need to make propellant on Titan?"

lol

Titan's atmosphere is mostly nitrogen and methane. Like 90% nitrogen. Astronomers predict that there are lakes, clouds, and rain made of methane. RP-1 rocket fuel is pretty much a very highly processed methane. So assuming they land near a lake or something, they would at least have access to it. In terms of how that is refined for rocket fuel though -- that's a question for a chemical engineer. Probably a lot of complex machinery that has never flown to Titan before. The bigger issue however is that fuel is only one half of the propellant. The other half is oxidizer. Titan doesn't have any oxygen (otherwise it would probably be on fire all the time). So where are they gonna get their oxygen to combine with the methane? And they have the capability to pressurize it?

There are other things going on here too. The mission plan as a whole was completely never going to work. Lets say the mission went according to plan. They would have done an entry burn just like this episode showed. They had some stuff about the density measurement on the atmosphere or whatever, but Aleida fixed that with a new trajectory (despite the fact that there is no way the mission ops director would be doing that...). The burn used up most of their propellant. Meaning that all along they were going to use up that much prop with the plan to make more on Titan's surface? They would NEVER land the first crewed landing without enough prop to get back. There are SO many things that could go wrong it is beyond any space flight risk management procedure. I guess if Ed Baldwin were on the crew, he'd be able to reliably punch the methane into usable fuel, but that isn't an option anymore.

And like bbehe said, they were on the other side of Saturn and did like a 30 second insertion burn and hit Titan's atmosphere less than a minute later? That would still be like 4 days. Then their heat shield, designed for Mars entry exceeded temp limits when descending on an atmosphere about 400x more dense than Mars. Okay so maybe they beefed it up -- that is A LOT of mass, which changes everything. How are they getting back to Mars now?

5/11/2026 9:38:09 AM

Never question a Baldwin!

5/11/2026 2:30:08 PM

I think the true theme of the show is "Is the Baldwin trait nature or nurture?"

That is the real reason they chose to make Kelly an adopted child.

5/11/2026 2:51:43 PM